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Old 04-14-2009, 09:44 PM
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Small car crashes vs. mid size cars

Just released...

Most new cars pass with flying colors against other cars in their class, but now the IIHS has tested small cars against mid-size cars in their own make. For example, a Toyota Yaris did fine against another small car, but against a larger and heavier Toyota Camry, it failed miserably. Same did with the Smart Car vs. Mercedes C-Class and Honda Fit vs. Honda Accord. Some of these results... tisk, tisk, tisk.

More on this link and video...

turn up your volume and closely watch this 2 minute 30 second minute video....
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IIHS-HLDI: Video

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I wonder what that Smartcar would look like if it hit a car like my 5000 lb '72 Caprice wagon?
WOW.

The Smartcar was deformed when it hit the Mercedes C-Class, which had ZERO deformation to the passenger cage.

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Old 04-14-2009, 10:21 PM
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If you look at the video the smart car's passenger cage still didn't deform much, it did pretty well considering the C300 or wahtever is twice its weight.

The Yaris got raped by the Camry though!

If ever gas becomes really expensive, through supply issues or taxation, then it won't matter as much since most people won't be able to afford a Camry with a 2.4 liter engine that gets a miserable 20 mpg in the city. They'll instead go for a smaller car. That is probably the only way we will ever use less oil too.
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Old 04-14-2009, 10:22 PM
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Check this one out. The smart car gets pummeled.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02eghIfyHP0
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Is anyone surprised?
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I wonder what that Smartcar would look like if it hit a car like my 5000 lb '72 Caprice wagon?
WOW.
Any pics of this Caprice wagon?
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Old 04-15-2009, 01:02 AM
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Any pics of this Caprice wagon?

Not the best pictures of the tank, but here it is... (currently under restoration)

(I have since repaired the rear gate window)

















I just noticed you have a '72 Impala Kingswood wagon... its sister! Any photos of your wagon?

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Old 04-15-2009, 01:13 AM
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If you look at the video the smart car's passenger cage still didn't deform much, it did pretty well considering the C300 or wahtever is twice its weight.

The Yaris got raped by the Camry though!
Yeah, I noticed that the Smartcar faired fairly well considering.... at least much better than the Yaris.

I think it was a C240 that hit the Smartcar.... did you notice how it threw that little thing?

I think IIHS is doing these now because alot of people think that small cars are safe now that they are scoring good scores against one another and I guess their goal now is to make small cars good against larger cars, but I am not sure if thats gonna happen. I dont know how much stronger they can make the passenger cage considering the cars weight.
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My wagon amongst my Mercedes. It will be used as a surfboard hauler this summer. Good thing the beach is only fifteen miles away, it sure likes gas

86560SEL, The black interior is awesome on that thing! I am especially envious of your dash. ,mine is cracked and needs to be capped or replaced. Good to see another Big wagon owner out there.
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Old 04-15-2009, 09:01 AM
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I was amazed how far that Smart got tossed!

For me alone, I'm fine with driving around in a tiny car or motorcycle. But for the family I will take my chances with mass every time.
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Is anyone surprised?
I'm not, at all.

I remember seeing a less-than-expected crash rating for either the 124 or 210 a while back, yet nowadays these Yaris(s) and Fits (which I can't stand either of!!) are getting good ratings?? I don't know how they are testing them, but it's common sense that they simply cannot stand up to bigger cars. Watch the Yaris hit the Camry, and pay attention to the dummy!! You'd probably snap your neck from what he did.

It really irks me that the companies are saying "well, these types of crashes rarely happen" So?? They still can! And what does that say about the rest of the car?
I saw a Nissan Versa that got smashed on the expressway..it looked really, really bad! Yet, I did not see what it hit..either they had immdiately towed the other car away, or it hit a tree, post..who knows.

What do you expect, though?
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Old 04-15-2009, 09:23 AM
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Is anyone surprised?
I am not surprised. There was another article quoting one of the Smart USA execs saying that one could go so far as to be driving 18 wheelers but we're not and it doesn't make sense.

They have drawbacks like all cars do but they're destined for the city where parking is a premium and used for short repetitive trips.

Nobody really makes an argument about the safety of motorcycles, there's really nothing that can be done other than the agility and skill of the rider.
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Old 04-15-2009, 09:30 AM
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Nice wagon! Yours looks to be the same color as mine, which I think was called golden brown. I am running off to work now, but I would like to talk more about your wagon. How is yours optioned? All of these were so different.

Mine has the 402 engine, tilt wheel, A/C, 3rd seat, luggage rack, AM radio, deluxe wheelcovers, towing package and I think thats about it.

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My wagon amongst my Mercedes. It will be used as a surfboard hauler this summer. Good thing the beach is only fifteen miles away, it sure likes gas

86560SEL, The black interior is awesome on that thing! I am especially envious of your dash. ,mine is cracked and needs to be capped or replaced. Good to see another Big wagon owner out there.
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Old 04-15-2009, 09:33 AM
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I saw a Nissan Versa that got smashed on the expressway..it looked really, really bad! Yet, I did not see what it hit..either they had immdiately towed the other car away, or it hit a tree, post..who knows.
The other car probably drove away
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I like it, I bet a Smart car would feel like a pot hole in this baby.
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