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Baptist pastor beaten + tazed by Border patrol
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Linkee no workee.
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Try again. I can't I'm at work Access Denied- damn them!
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That's bad. I drove thru one of those border patrol road blocks over Xmas break and was wondering about legal searches and probable cause at the time. I guess those don't matter much.
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Very inappropriate behavior on the part of the cops. If everything happened like the guy described, he probably has an excellent civil rights case against them.
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Anybody taking bets on whether those video cameras 'malfunctioned'?
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Cliff's Notes: Pastor was driving from Yuma to SD and was stopped at an internal border patrol checkpoint. They asked to search his car, he refused, citing his 4th amendment rights. They pulled him to the side, and said a drug/human being sniffing dog detected something in his trunk and that gave them probable cause. He said he heard nothing and asked them to bring the dog back and show him how it detected anything. They refused, and called the state cops. He explains to state cops, they ask BP to bring the dog back. BP refuses. Cops go back to him and say, 'you're under arrest'. They break both his windows, taser him several times, shove his face into the glass, yank him out of the car, taser him some more.
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It is simply amazing - now even Baptist Ministers need the ACLU these days.
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He should have just let them take a look in the trunk and move on. I run across those in S TX often. Turn on the lights pop the trunk button.
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Where does the Border Patrol get the right to do that?
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BTW, are these roadblocks common in the SW? Nothing like that is common up here, except arourd the holidays, for DWI checks. |
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I hate pseudorandom traffic stops (AKA DWH). I hate RICO laws. I hate it when L.E. believes their authorituh is more important than constitutional rights.
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You would at least find something to like about New Jersey.
url]http://www.erowid.org/freedom/courts/state/state_supreme_nj_case1_comment1.shtml[/url] New Jersey Supreme Court Blocks Suspicionless Searches During Traffic Stops Commentary on: Appellate Decision NJ State v. SJ Carty....... Notes: "Reasonable, articulable suspicion" This standard for when a police officer may choose to detain someone, is known as the Terry Standard from a case in 1968 [Terry v Ohio 392 U.S. 1 (1968)] in which the Federal Supreme Court ruled that police had the right to detain and frisk individuals for weapons if they had "reasonable" suspicion that the individual is involved in a crime. The standard which the Supreme Court developed has become a standard in law across the United States. Police are expected to have a suspicion they can describe in words ("articulable") which is "reasonable". What is 'reasonable' is up to the judge hearing the case. "Officer must be able to point to specific and articulable facts which, when taken together with rational inferences from those facts, reasonably warrant the intrusion." http://currentstudents.law.miami.edu/outlines/crim_pro_out.html [ Last edited by dynalow; 04-16-2009 at 05:54 PM. |
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I like it. Good for NJ.
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So I guess these guys in AZ, if they get sued will use the "Dog ate my homework" defense. Notice: The minister during all this was careful to observe the behavior of the dogs and said he noticed no unusual behavior in the mutts. He nmay have been looking to create a confrontation for his own reasons. a la the JFK incident a while back.(Don't taze me Bro. ) Jorn, keep an eye on this and get back to us with the verdict. |
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