"I think we cannot underscore [enough] the seriousness of the existential threat posed to the state of Pakistan by the continuing advances," said Clinton, adding the nuclear-armed nation also poses a "mortal threat" to the United States and other countries.

Didn't know she was up on Camus and Sartre for foreign affairs advice.

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So then why did we invade Iraq?

because Saddam was an a$%hole....and needed deposing. Also of value is a country where we can have a fwd operating base to attack Iran. Strategy..

Since we now have Taliban troops sixty miles away from nuclear weapons, while at the same time we have 140,000 US troops in Iraq, sitting around wondering why they are there along with most of the people in the US, I think it is going to be viewed as one of the greatest military blunders in history. The utter stupidity of all these years in Iraq while our most mortal enemy is allowed free to operate in a country where he can acquire nuclear weapons is breathtaking. I would not be surprised if they haven't loaded one onto a tramp steamer headed for Seattle right now.

And murdering people for the acquistion of forward operating bases, Hitler would have agreed with you.

1. We did not murder anyone....that is a clearly incorrect, insipid statement meant to inflame the uninformed.

2. Those 140,000 US troops are a lot closer to Pakistan now than if they were in the US. If the Pakis need us, we can start reacting by sending troops very quickly....strategy.

3. Just because you dont like something does not make it wrong.

4. We clearly need to do whatever it takes to keep the taliban from snatching the nukes in Pakistan. Don't be so foolish to think that there is not a plan on the desk to deal with this matter, and it may involve tactical nukes or chemical weapons. Would that be murder too? Or does that only occur under Republican administartions?

War is hell...move on

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It becomes more of a threat each day as we continue to bomb these tribal regions, for no apparent reason, against the word of the Pakistani govt.

Now, "Pakistani Govt" is a term that can be debated, but that is not my point.

It's just an ongoing cycle; I don't understand why people can't see through it. We bomb these Pashtun people, usually killing many innocent people (because, you know, those drones just KNOW who they are shooting missles at)

Eventually they get fed up, start new "terrorist" groups, and then we have a new enemy. DUH. What do you expect them to do?

You know, it's one thing that we have all this covert nonsense going on, and I am never in favor of a new war, but if we REALLY need to go into Pakistan and do something, then we need to DO it, not fiddle around with drones for a year and make a new uprising against us. It's not accomplishing anything, just making it worse.

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Perhaps get rid of, rather than aid and abett these thugs. Or do you think that as they clearly have much support amongst the local populace they should just be allowed to fester and grow like any cancer cell in a willing host? And if the host is in fact willing then just how differetn is the supposed result of these drone strikes from the natural state of the territory that breeds the cancer anyway?


America appears to have neither the balls, nor the boots, do DO it, in Pakistan. That's unfortunate ast the Pakistani "government" to the extent that the word has any meaning, obviously doesnt either. Witness their recent capitulation in the Swat valley.

- Peter.

- Peter.

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Thoughtful comment. Thanks.

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There might be a plan but o will never use use tactical nukes of chem weapons in the middle east or anywhere else. It would be a mistake to think there is even the slightest possibility.

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1. A war waged illegally is murder, I suggest you read up on th Nuremburg trials. We invaded a country that did not attack us based upon a false claim, exactly, and I mean EXACTLY what Hitler did when he invaded Poland. We also actd without consent of the UN, a violation of the UN Charter.

2. They are tied down in Iraq. If they leave, that place blows up, and they would have been a damn sight closer in Afghanistan, not to mention the fact this could have been dealt with years ago. The force we have in Iraq is a pittance for what we would need for an invasion of Pakistan, the place has 140 million people compared to the 20 million in Iraq, the terrain is ten times rougher and we do not have Kuwait or Saudi Arabia next door. THIS should have been the war we fought.

3. Tell us all again how "Bush kept us safe"

4. This will now cost more lives, and may also cost us a nuclear detonation on the American continent. Good job.

Just for the sake of truth, there have been murders, and there have been convictions. Or have those trials just been incorrect, insipid inflammatory propaganda?

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The entire war is murder.

Did Congress pass resolutions authorizing it? Did it have overwhelming bipartisan support?

That you don't like the outcome is no longer a mystery to anybody who has read your strident, ill-informed, and patently inaccurate characterizations.

Too bad.

B