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Diesel into my 95 Chebby wagon?
Took a trip this weekend with my 95 chebby wagon, pulling my utility trailer with my Miata autocrosser up on it.
I kept daydeaming of having the wagon with a mb diesel in it. I was thinking of a 606 non turbo or possibly one of those that come in the sprinter van. Any thoughts on this idea? I'd love to do a 617 turbo (I have a spare in fact) but I don't think it would have enough power to pull my travel trailer.
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It should be doable. The engine compartment should have plenty of room. You'd need to do a little custom fabrication for engine and transmission mounts and a few linkages. I think a 6.5 would be a better engine choice for the type of use you're talking about.
Or you could just use your Dodge.
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No Tom.. no...
put a 6 speed in there and some headers... |
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I love the look of that smmmmoooooothhhhh wagon though!
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The six speed is definately attractive to me but the cost of it is fierce!
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there is a guy over on diesel page that put either a 6.2 or 6.5 is his buick wagon.supposedly getting upper 30's for mpg's
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I saw a magazine article not too long ago that showed a Durmax stuffed into a 60's Impala. I think there's some youtube video of it as well.
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I also like the accessibility of a straight six. Remember his mileage is in Imperial gallons which are at least twenty percent larger than a us gallon. The only way I can imagine his claim for towing mileage is if the trailer has less frontal area than the car and is very very streamlined. His other mileage figures seemed attainalbe.
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The duramax does not interest me. They have some weak areas and have the disadvantage of being a v engine with two heads, and two of all the other things that go on a head.
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I personally would think a cummins diesel would be your best bet. Or...you might try a 4 cylinder diesel from like a Box delivery truck. Best wieght for performance ratio and they are made to haul heavy loads. I know Cummins made a 4 cylinder and just about everyone else did as well for delivery trucks. Keep us posted.
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Tom,
With the amount of parts available for a SBC you can make your 5.7 liter do what you want it to do. Try headers, a chip(power programmer) and a cam to get either more torque or power. I would hate to see you yank it for a diesel as much as I love our MB Diesels There is a programmer that will let you change the settings in both the engine and transmission from towing to economy to performance.
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Mercedes makes a nice light duty Diesel engine but compared to the Cummins B series engine a 617 looks.... shall we say pretty weak? Every time I tow something with my Dodge/Cummins setup I marvel at how well it works, I can't imagine a suburban with a 125 HP OM617 or even a OM602 or 606 would even be close to what you already have.
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There's a 606 NA as well as a 603.97x for sale on Craigslist in Chicago. I think the 606 was $1200 and the 603 around $2500. In case you're interested
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How about one of those Olds diesels that used to come in GM wagons? Some people really liked them.
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