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Old 08-04-2009, 09:59 AM
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Right wing mob action being employed to stop health care reform

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Right-Wing Harassment Strategy Against Dems Detailed In Memo: ‘Yell,’ ‘Stand Up And Shout Out,’ ‘Rattle Him’



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This morning, Politico reported that Democratic members of Congress are increasingly being harassed by “angry, sign-carrying mobs and disruptive behavior” at local town halls. For example, in one incident, right-wing protesters surrounded Rep. Tim Bishop (D-NY) and forced police officers to have to escort him to his car for safety.
This growing phenomenon is often marked by violence and absurdity. Recently, right-wing demonstrators hung Rep. Frank Kratovil (D-MD) in effigy outside of his office. Missing from the reporting of these stories is the fact that much of these protests are coordinated by public relations firms and lobbyists who have a stake in opposing President Obama’s reforms.
The lobbyist-run groups Americans for Prosperity and FreedomWorks, which orchestrated the anti-Obama tea parties earlier this year, are now pursuing an aggressive strategy to create an image of mass public opposition to health care and clean energy reform. A leaked memo from Bob MacGuffie, a volunteer with the FreedomWorks website Tea Party Patriots, details how members should be infiltrating town halls and harassing Democratic members of Congress:

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– Artificially Inflate Your Numbers: “Spread out in the hall and try to be in the front half. The objective is to put the Rep on the defensive with your questions and follow-up. The Rep should be made to feel that a majority, and if not, a significant portion of at least the audience, opposes the socialist agenda of Washington.”
– Be Disruptive Early And Often: “You need to rock-the-boat early in the Rep’s presentation, Watch for an opportunity to yell out and challenge the Rep’s statements early.”
– Try To “Rattle Him,” Not Have An Intelligent Debate: “The goal is to rattle him, get him off his prepared script and agenda. If he says something outrageous, stand up and shout out and sit right back down. Look for these opportunities before he even takes questions.”
The memo above also resembles the talking points being distributed by FreedomWorks for pushing an anti-health reform assault all summer. Patients United, a front group maintained by Americans for Prosperity, is currently busing people all over the country for more protests against Democratic members. Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX), chairman of the NRCC, has endorsed the strategy, telling the Politico the days of civil town halls are now “over.”
Meanwhile, AHIP, the trade group and lobbying juggernaut representing the health insurance industry is sending staffers to monitor town halls and other right-wing front groups are stepping up their ad campaign to smear reform efforts. The strategy for defeating reform — recently outlined by an influential lobbyist to the Hill newspaper as “delay” then “kill” — is becoming apparent. By delaying a vote until after the August recess, lobbyists are now seizing upon recess town halls as opportunities to ambush lawmakers and fool them into believing there is wide opposition to reform.

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Old 08-04-2009, 11:29 AM
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They were out in force in Philly on Sunday to greet Specter and Sebelius.

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Old 08-04-2009, 11:57 AM
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The plan is not constructive dialogue, it is to silence the opposition with an organized mob. Where have we heard of that before?
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The plan is not constructive dialogue, it is to silence the opposition with an organized mob. Where have we heard of that before?
On his first day (Jan. 30, 1933) as chancellor of Germany, Adolf Hitler convinced German President Paul von Hindenburg that the Reichstag (parliament) must be dissolved. New elections were scheduled for March 5; meanwhile, Hitler continued meetings with industrialists and military leaders to discuss plans to rebuild Germany’s military might. Krupp AG and IG Farben, in particular, donated millions of marks to the Nazi Party for the new elections.

At the urging of Hitler, Hindenburg responded the next day by issuing an emergency decree “for the Protection of the people and the State,” which stated: “Restrictions on personal liberty, on the right of free expression of opinion, including freedom of the press; on the rights of assembly and association; and violations of the privacy of postal, telegraphic and telephonic communications and warrants for house searches, orders for confiscations as well as restrictions on property, are also permissible beyond the legal limits otherwise prescribed.”

The Nazi’s immediately used the decree to intensify their attacks on their political opponents, especially the communists. Although the Nazi Part failed to win a majority in the March 5 elections, Hitler was able to push through the Enabling Act (officially, “Law for Removing the Distress of the People and the Reich”) on March 23. With 441 votes for and 84 against (the Social Democrats) the act officially recognized Hitler as Germany’s dictator and abolished democracy.

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In Russia: The October Revolution was a much more deliberate event, orchestrated by a small group of people. The Bolsheviks, who led this coup, prepared their coup in only six months. They were generally viewed as an extremist group and had very little popular support when they began serious efforts in April 1917.

In the October Revolution (November on the Gregorian calendar), the Bolshevik party, led by Vladimir Lenin, and the workers' Soviets, overthrew the Provisional Government in Petrograd. The Bolsheviks appointed themselves as leaders of various government ministries and seized control of the countryside, establishing the Cheka to ruthlessly quash dissent. The Bolshevik leadership signed a peace treaty with Germany in March 1918.
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Right-Wing Harassment Strategy Against Dems Detailed In Memo: ‘Yell,’ ‘Stand Up And Shout Out,’ ‘Rattle Him’


Not much different than some folks on this forum.

But not to worry. They are making fools of themselves and drawing a crowd that is both irrelevant in message and size. They will be silenced again at the voting booth come the 2010 elections.
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Good for them. Employing the same tactics the lefties have used for years.
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Oh boo hoo cry me a river.
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Good for them. Employing the same tactics the lefties have used for years.
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Gee...I don't know. Maybe Saul Alinsky and his rules for radicals.
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Yes, it does prove that neither political party can claim the high road, so why is anyone surprised?
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Cindy Sheehan

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just about any attempted communist takeover


any other questions Kirt? I guess the left doesnt like being hit with their own tactics.....you guys crack me up; attack the government like crazy and when you ARE the government, whine like spoiled brats because not everyone is in lockstep with your disasterous policies
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[SIZE="5"]any other questions Kirt? I guess the left doesnt like being hit with their own tactics.....you guys crack me up; attack the government like crazy and when you ARE the government, whine like spoiled brats because not everyone is in lockstep with your disasterous policies
Very true, although I haven't heard of left wingers murdering their opponents, so they have yet to truly achieve exhaulted right wing wacko status.

If all we do is pay attention to the fringes, then what do we miss?
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Old 08-04-2009, 04:17 PM
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Very true, although I haven't heard of left wingers murdering their opponents, so they have yet to truly achieve exhaulted right wing wacko status.

If all we do is pay attention to the fringes, then what do we miss?
I belive that occured several times during the 60s and 70s....

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