He surely embraces his black half- first black president- but I have yet to hear him embrace his white half. These days it isn't politically expedient to be white. All that being said, I could care less what color someones skin is. Most people who are unhappy with Obama's attempt to turn America into Europe aren't racist. If McCain had won and tried to pass the same laws there would be even more protests because the progressives wouldn't have to be silenced by their white guilt. Regarding the Nazi signs, I believe they are equating the healthcare policy with the policies of the Third Reich. And please spare me the "you're a racist" because you're white and you don't agree with Obama.

it doesn't make you or them racist, it makes them lazy, bad arguers. it also does a HUGE disservice to the history and memory and immensity of the holocaust and the destruction wrought by the third reich.

don't like something, just compare it to nazism or the holocaust or hitler! now you've got the immensity of history behind your barely put together argument! you win! that's b.s. from both liberals and conservatives.

not to mention the audacity of comparing some petty political fight to the horrors of nazi germany. it makes americans sound like spoiled brats. if you think this is bad, maybe you should do a little more studying and a lot less shouting and gun cleaning. i equate it to mattress and car sales for memorial day. what a gaudy, tacky idea that does nothing to honor or remember our fallen soldiers. same goes for holocaust/hitler comparisons.

so, maybe they're not racist, but they sure are tactless and ignorant.

EDIT: memorial day correction

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Timmy was not a particularly true to form right-winger (if there is one), he was more of a libertarian, cult-isolationist lone wolf nut job.

Memorial Day is for those who died during time of war VETERANS DAY is for vets, all of them. Regarding the nazi card, it is used by both left and right to illustrate points. Silly choice, as neither meet the intent of National Socialism or use their rather extreme tactics...

Sheesh...guess I have the only responsible friends around here.

Nobody I know who decides to carry, thinks consuming large quantities of alcohol would be wise while doing so. What you are describing, sounds more like a problem with the guest list.

pushing back comes in other, more constructive forms that get more done. look at history, who won? jesus - peaceful protestor, gandhi - peaceful protestor. look at malcolm x vs. martin luther king - who was more successful, who is thought of more positively, who had more of a long term effect?

brandishing a gun does infer power and threat, but it's not a commendable nor respectable idea. look at gangbangers, it's the same idea, a manufactured threat that has no explaination and no ideology that can be seen or heard. it is forceful and final and does not create compromise or democracy, no matter how many founding father quotes you throw out along with your weapons.

i don't except expecting more of this. i firmly fear the tyranny of the majority, especially when they have more guns than smarts or ideas. great, you won by force, now we'll follow your orders at gunpoint. sounds like dictatorship to me, not democracy. guns have their place in our lives and our country, not in our policy making. this isn't the 1700's anymore, some of us have evolved beyond needing a gun and some grunting. if everyone took a vote and slavery was reinstated by popular vote, it wouldn't make it right, it wouldn't be acceptable. if it was reinstated at gun point, it would make it even worse, not more patriotic.

go ahead, push around the government. write letters, start peaceful protests, boycott products and policies, raise funding for political think tanks, whatever you want. pointing guns ends the conversation and steps on someone's rights, maybe not yours or your ideas, but someone will not have a say because of it. and democracy is about sharing your country and life with people who disagree wholeheartedly with you and still get equal say. that's the country i'm proud of.

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Thanks...just got back from Sitka, and I'm still going through the back-to-work blues. The above brought back pleasant memories of the incredibly fresh air up there.

Who won? Uhhh...it wasn't the British. It wasn't the South. It wasn't the Japanese or Germans.

I forget - were those all won via peaceful protest?

Have you read The rise and fall of the Third Reich? Have you served in the Armed services? If you are not vigilant that petty political fight can turn into a horror. I try to learn from history, and it sure seems like we are going to repeat it if we don't do something.

That is such a lame complaint. I'm sure some people hold that view, but they are knuckleheads. I'd bet that there are just as many knuckleheads who base their entire opinion of Obama on his race.

If you don't think that racism is behind much of the opposition to Obama, then I don't think you understand the role of race in America.

And to claim that white people are at a political or economic disadvantage in this country is just pure fantasy.

I guess my knowledge of history needs some help. What about Obama makes him remotely like Hitler? And what sort of health care proposal have you heard that remotely resembles Hitler's policies?

What would you call it when the government looks at your race and decides, "You can't bid on this project", or "You don't qualify for this job/promotion"?
As a whole, I agree, the white race cannot claim to be disadvantaged.
But, as individuals, many whites are denied equal opportuninty.

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Crude attempts to remedy centuries of economic, cultural, and governmental racism.That's true. In some cases that discrimination is the lesser of two evils. Other times it's just wrong.

Well, if history is any indicator, Obama will have a threat on his life. Much like all the other Presidents before him. Both the Bushes and Carter and Clinton had it. What makes Obama any different. You take such a high profile job and there will always be some nut trying to kill you. Hell, people have been killed for less. Do I agree with it? Absolutely not. I don't care if I disagree with Obama on many things. He is our Prez and should not be assassinated because of some reason that seems important to some nutball. That said, we need to face reality that there will always be attempts on his life as long as he is in office. He knows that and we know that. Comes with the job. Should it be that way? Absolutely not. Reality bites though

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Yes that is certainly true. I navigated the waters of political correctness in San Francisco city Government as a career, for over 20 years, and I know that VERY well.....

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