A lot of terror plots on US soil being disrupted lately:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts924

I remember some people here used to argue that the war on terror is not a law enforcement matter but rather a military one that requires the invasion of other countries. So much for the "stay the course in Iraq so we don't have to fight them here" BS. I must say kudos to our law enforcement and keep up the good work. Hopefully they'll be able to catch all the terror plots before it's too late.

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And I can't help wondering if "law enforcement" (FBI/CIA) didn't use some of the tools provided in the Patriot Act to round up these guys. You know, those violations of civil liberties...wiretaps, etc.
Sacre Bleu!!

I never doubted the Patriot Act had some useful elements in it. Generally I don't have a problem with wiretapping, undercover surveillance, etc. I do have a problem with torture and indefinite detention without a fair trial. So far it looks like our govt is handling these cases properly.

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Who knows. Maybe they didn't need the Patriot Act at all for their investigations.

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wiretaps were NOT illegal before the Patriot act.

They were/are illegal with out court order.

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Correct. My point though vague was that it seemed the quoted poster implied that the Patriot Act made wiretaps legal.

Its not a law enforcement matter. And for 8 years we did keep it "over there". So it obviously worked. It is an attack on the U.S. by what is typically foreign nationals. Terrorists don't deserve and should not get any civil rights. The people they kill and their families didn't get those things.... They should be dealt with as the animals they are.

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Tell that to the investigators who foiled the plots described in the article. Then they could release the terrorists, and hope that the army somehow kills them.

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http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/092409dnmetbombarrest.1b177db8b.html

Smadi, a Jordanian citizen illegally living in the U.S. in the small town of Italy, about 45 miles south of Dallas, pledged allegiance to Osama bin Laden and expressed a desire to kill Americans, authorities said.

In conversations with agents posing as members of an al-Qaeda sleeper cell, Smadi said he came to the U.S. to wage jihad, or holy war. He told agents he wanted to target military recruitment centers, but eventually settled on financial institutions.

"I want to destroy ... targets ... everything that helps America on its war on Arabs will be targeted," he told undercover agents in May.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials in Dallas and Washington declined to comment on Smadi or his status today, beyond saying they had placed a hold on him to "ensure that if he is released for any reason regarding the criminal charges against him, he will be transferred to ICE custody..." They referred all further inquiries to the U.S. attorney’s office.

In Jordan, Smadi's father told Agence France-Presse, the French news service, that his son was innocent and the accusation against him was "fabricated."

"The charges are false," said Maher Hussein Smadi, a ministry of agriculture engineer in the town of Kofranjeh, northwest of Amman.

"We as a family never believed in terrorism and we never believed in violence."

He added: "The FBI fabricated the entire thing to embarrass [President Barack] Obama because of his good relations with Muslims."

"They used my son, who is married to an American woman, because he apparently visited Islamist websites frequently."

He added that another son, Hussein, 18, is in California and had been arrested, too. He could not give details.

According to officials in Santa Clara County, Calif., the younger brother was charged in August with one count of possession of a controlled substance. He is scheduled for a pretrial court hearing next month.

The arrest was not believed to have been related to the investigation of Hosam Smadi's activities in North Texas.

According to AFP, Hosam Smadi had an arrest record back home. Jordanian Information Minister Nabil Sharif said the 19-year-old was "put at a correctional facility in 2004 after he was arrested over theft and street-begging."

Sharif said Jordanian records indicate that Smadi came to the United States in 2007, "but we don't know why he went there."

The U.S. Justice Department said Smadi was a Jordanian citizen staying in the United States illegally. But his father insisted that his son emigrated legally.

"Hosam suffered psychological problems after the death of his mother of cancer in 2007, when he decided to go to the United States to live and study with his friend. But regardless of these problems, I know my son is innocent."

They should be tried as enemy spies and shot.

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