Jail for brothers who beat burglar with bat
 

A businessman who fought off knife-wielding burglars who were threatening to kill his family was jailed for 30 months in a case that has reignited the debate on how far householders can go to protect themselves and their property.

Munir Hussain, 53, discovered three masked men in his house when his family returned from their local mosque during Ramadan in September last year.

The burglars tied up and threatened to kill Hussain and his family but a teenage son managed to escape and alert Hussain's brother, Tokeer.

The intruders fled when help arrived at the house in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, but the brothers chased and caught one, Walid Salem, a criminal with more than 50 previous convictions. He was then subjected to what Judge John Reddihough described as a "dreadful, violent attack" by the Hussain brothers.

Salem was left with a permanent brain injury after he was struck with a cricket bat so hard that it broke into three pieces. The revenge attack was self-defence that went too far, Reading crown court was told.

The judge said Hussain's family had been subject to a "serious and wicked offence" and praised the bravery of his teenage son who escaped.

"This case is a tragedy for you and your families," the judge told Munir Hussain. "Sadly, I have no doubt that my public duty requires me to impose immediate prison sentences of some length upon you. This is in order to reflect the serious consequences of your violent acts and intent and to make it absolutely clear that, whatever the circumstances, persons cannot take the law into their own hands, or carry out revenge attacks upon a person who has offended them."

The brothers, described as family men at the heart of the local community, were found guilty of causing grievous bodily harm with intent after a trial earlier this year.

Munir Hussain was given a 30-month sentence while his brother was jailed for 39 months after the judge decided he had not been subject to as much provocation as his brother.

Although Salem was the only intruder caught after the incident, his injuries meant he was not fit to plead after being charged with false imprisonment. He was given a two-year supervision order at a court hearing in September.

The court heard that the case had similarities to that of farmer Tony Martin, who shot a teenage intruder, and there was public support in both cases. The law allows for people to use reasonable force to protect themselves or others, or to carry out an arrest or to prevent crime.

However, attacks motivated by malice or out of revenge and intended to cause injury are unlikely to constitute reasonable force, according to advice published by the Association of Chief Police Officers and the Crown Prosecution Service.

"It may be that some members of the public, or media commentators, will assert that Salem deserved what happened to him at the hands of you and the two others involved, and that you should not have been prosecuted and need not be punished," the judge added.

"However, if persons were permitted to … inflict their own instant and violent punishment on an apprehended offender rather than letting justice take its course, then the rule of law and our system of criminal justice, which are the hallmarks of a civilised society, would collapse."

The court heard that Hussain and his wife and children feared for their lives as their hands were tied behind their backs.

Michael Wolkind, defending, said Hussain was the "real victim" in the case.

"The public surely do not want Munir Hussain to receive imprisonment. I don't seek a medal, I seek justice for him." Hussain, usually a controlled man, had acted in the heat of the moment in "extreme circumstances of stress", he said.

The prosecution said the Hussains were not being convicted for apprehending Salem, but for the "excessive force" they used on him.

Hilary Neville, prosecuting, said: "What started as reasonable self defence by Munir Hussain then turned into excessive force by virtue of a sustained attack by Munir, Tokeer and at least two others."

The court heard sentencing would have an impact on the local economy, with 10 members of staff losing their jobs at Soundsorba, the company run by Munir Hussain, who employs his brother as a technical director. The firm, which produces sound-absorbing material, has an annual turnover of £2.5m. Munir Hussain is a former winner of the Asian businessman of the year award and is head of the Race Equality Council for High Wycombe.

Speaking outside the court, Wolkind said: "The criminal justice system has failed twice. The court was unable to sentence Walid Salem with sufficient harshness, or Munir and Tokeer Hussain with sufficient compassion.

"It's difficult to believe that this outcome reflects the thinking of the public, or the interests of justice."

He said he intended to appeal against the sentence.

A document jointly published by the CPS and Acpo says people are not expected to make fine judgments about what might be reasonable force in the heat of the moment, so long as they only do what they honestly and instinctively believe is necessary.

However, force used after chasing someone who runs off may not be considered to be reasonable. Acting out of malice and revenge with the intent of inflicting punishment through injury or death would not be reasonable, it adds. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/dec/14/jail-brothers-burglar-cricket-bat

Yup, I ain't self defense if the guy runs away and you chase him down and beat him with a bat. If you're going to handle it that way, finish the job and don't call the cops when you are done.

Or make sure that your Mosberg is close in hand and shoot him INSIDE the house, this is self defense. :)

That was England, not Texas.

England has been on the downturn with its screwed up police state. Don't forget London is known as the city with the "most CCTVs".

It isn't for protection,it's for control of the general populace.

Sadly I see the US falling into this trap. In the 1950s it was the communists and in the new millennium it's terrorists and child predators.

That's the way England is now.

From their names, they are muslims. And obviously, as immigrants, they never assimilated to any meaningful degree to England, which is the norm.

Their males are generally VERY vengeful, whether learnt from the Koran, their fathers, their schools or wherever.

Judicial violence is also very common under Sharia law and Islam. Beheadings, stonings, canings, hand amputations, public executions, removing tear ducts, on and on it goes.




So I don't understand why anyone is so surprised about incidents like this.

That would not happen in Florida.

Falling? It's been here for a while. Each country just has a different version of it is all. The brits are keen to point out the same over here, albeit in a different arena.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wRxfz_6E7o

Hahahaha! I wish that video went a couple extra seconds longer. It shows them in their room watching a movie on a computer.

But I do agree with you. A lot of what we see is nothing more then security theater especially at airports.

If I can find the article that describes the issues with TSA, I'd post it. I'm at work so I need to type this fast.

The judge made the right call here - it crossed over from defense to assault. They didn't have the right to beat him with a cricket bat any more than police have the right to beat you with a baton when they have you in custody.

If they wanted to get away with it they should have dragged him back to the house and beat him there.

Yeah, stuff like this never happens in the west unless muslims are involved. :rolleyes:

Jim,

Normally I agree with most of your posts but I think you are missing the mark with this one and painting with a very broad brush.

Recentlly there was a robbery down in Houston and the next door neighbor was on the phone with 911 telling the operator he was going to shoot the guy. As I recall, he actually did end up killing the thiefs. This was not even his own home but a neighbors and he was never threatened.

To blame this incident on the fact that their names sound Musslim and not to expect more is to ignore a time honored tradition here in the US to shoot first and ask questions later. At the very last, this man was actually directly affecter by the crime, the above mentioned incident did not even affect the neighbor yet he shot and killed two men and got away with it.

Houston shooting

A couple of years ago some yahoo in denver shot some kid who was running away after robbing another (unoccupied) house. I believe that guy is also in the big house now. The west has it's share of idiots.

Yes, and some wear badges, and some don't.

The Police ALWAYS get away with murder, unless it's on film, and with camera cell phones, and witnessess that will be less and less from now on.

The BART policeman, Johannes Mehserle that shot a handcuffed suspect in the back with his service revolver is in HUGE trouble, because of the phone videos shot of the act. In the old days he would have got away with it, his word against civilians.

Now it is murder, the videos prove it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKKQ-gzc_Yw&feature=related

His excuse was that he thought he was going for his Tazer did not fly.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BART_Police_shooting_of_Oscar_Grant