... "and most would concure" ...?

I would concure that you just rephrased my post and threw it back at me. How chill!

Btw, are you a WWII veteran or a direct offspring thereof?

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It's the usual 'Klim tactic. If articulation fails, discredit the opposition poster. Yawn.

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I don't see how it's apologetic in any way. But what do I know, I dug my degree out of the same Cracker Jack box you got yours from.
If anyone is being apologetic here, it's you. Go jet around with BO and kiss asses and bow to foreign leaders-

What kind of nonsense is that? Do you actually gain particular satisfaction from priding yourself with somebody else's laurel?

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So how about them sanctions?

Like getting $6'500 cash back!*
(*off a $38'000 purchase)
Look at the savings!

Sometimes the guy across the street sides with the guy up the street and picks on that guys next door neighbor. So I threaten the guy across the street with an exploding house or full on assault and he's happy when I just blow him up after starving his family. Because there's nothing else I could have done.

How would you define the confusion you are suffereing from?

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It's mostly induced by people who can't seem to grasp past events in their context.
Please don't question my education, you are only showing your own ignorance. You see that I have removed myself to a rural, secluded area and assume that I am some inbred hick, yet you yourself dare not give any of your own background. How about your degree? How about you tell us all what qualifies you to make such sweeping statements about military policy?

The historical records show that not to be the case with the "Master Race"! The will of Germans and Germany was broken under the American boot and at the point of the American bayonet long before A-Bombs where needed.

I've been here for the last 50+ years and that was never taught in the schools I've attended. I learned that the deliberate immolation of 200,000+ threats to freedom and liberty was the final act which occurred after 4+ years of countless similar albeit less efficient acts that ultimately convinced Japan and its people the wisdom of unconditional surrender.

Well obviously, the facts are not in dispute otherwise you would have challenged them with some opposing fact set and you can not!

My particular satisfaction is derived not from any laurels but the ideals of freedom and liberty from which enduring laurels grow forth!

I really don't care too much about your rural settings and the education you may or may not have received.
Why do you refer to yourself in plural?
There is a history for justifications and going to war throughout the past 100 years.
It can be said with good conscience, the US has been more at war than at peace during that period.

We are far beyond the times and means of the 40's and 50's.
Most anybody in this country can tell the rapidly growing negative effects of continued military presence around the globe.

Ofcourse, many still prefer to support such proposals and even profiteer from it.

You may ask, what does it have to do with the A-Bomb drop.
It's the same ideology all along. Nothing has changed.

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I don't see how your response is related to what I mention in my post. It seems like you enjoy throwing shlokahs at Germans.

What exactly is it you contributed to the American boot that supposedly broke the German will?

The Freedoms and Liberties you are talking about is what you are loosing currently.
More with every day for as long as America continues Imperial Militarism.

Back to the Germans, although far off topic.

The invasion at the Westfront came at a time, when the German Wehrmacht was knowingly running on it's last resources.
Nice opportunity for MacArthur's photo shoot.

Let me assure you, even under consideration of the WWII outcome, no American boot has broken "The German Will".

Accoring to historical records, it was the Russians who undertook the lionshare of the fighting, not the US Armed Forces and much less the Britons. Credit to the Britons for the destruction though.

Time has evolved since and both, Germany and Japan are far ahead of the game, which is not exactly how I would describe the present situation throughout the USA.

Just look at where you are posting. This isn't a "Chevy pickup truck forum".

Militarism has costly consequences for a nation. That might be something you have yet to learn.

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It's not every oppositional poster, it's you. You are trying to compare him with a concentration camp survivor. Why don't you tell us what the similarities are? I'm not interested in penning a reply just to help you with your mental masturbation.

Edit: Perhaps I am wrong about you this time. So why don't you tell us what the concentration camp survivor and this guy have in common besides their species and they survived something difficult?

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You seem to have not noticed that this is a public forum, I am not the only one who would see your reply nor do I feel I am the only one who wants to know-
I like how you danced around that question, though, and instead shot back at me like you said ignorant people do. Good move, lots of credibility left.

First you stated pure conjecture:
Then your own personal perversion of reality:
Then your similar dyslexic veiw :
I’ve simply responded that in the case of defeated Germany none of what you’ve proffered applies, Germany was defeated in conventional battles, by conventional means, by superior adversaries, before the use of nuclear weapons by America!

At the time, I could only contribute future promise!

What you fail to understand is that America started with infinitely more freedoms than any others and can afford to loose a larger percentage than any others and afterwards still remain the most free and libertine!

A circumstance directly attributable to the failure of German logistical planning and evidence of superior American strategic planning and tactical execution!

You must be confusing your photos; MacArthur would be in the Philippines not at the collapse of the German Westfront!

Twice in the twentieth century being brought to heel and bowing to American will proves otherwise!

You must be reading Russian history! Russia may have fielded more men, and lost more men, but they where wearing American boots, shooting American bullets, moving in American vehicles, eating American food, and wiping their a$$es with German tongues.

Time does not evolve it only advances. Circumstances evolve! Your analysis and description of the “game” is myopic.

The number of Chevy pickup truck forums and the number of participants in those forums most likely out number many other forums!

A lesson Germany has twice been schooled in by America. A lesson you’ve undoubtedly taken to heart considering German military impotence on display today in Afghanistan. America is not a militarist country and militarism in defense of freedom and liberty is no vice something you would do well to learn!