Wanna be Terrorists? Are you frustrated in your bomb making? Well, US media . . - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

cmac2012 · #1 05-05-2010, 03:36 AM

. . . is here to help. At about the 2:10 mark, though the send up is pretty good, IMO:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-may-3-2010/explosive-and-the-city

In short, FOX, CNN, and MSNBC are shown here to be only too kind in pointing out where and how the bomb maker screwed up.

And then I hear NPR today outlining how and why the guy screwed up when he bought the SUV for the attempt - found it on Craigslist, used his e-mail address, etc.

I mean news is news, keep the people informed and all that but Good Lord, do we have to provide a tutorial on how these things work?

SwampYankee · #2 05-05-2010, 07:58 AM

Our local CT newscasts have also been sure to let us all know why it didn't work as planned.

HuskyMan · #3 05-05-2010, 08:21 AM

that's because the media is run by a bunch of eggheads. it is all about selling the "news". the more outrageous the story, the more they want to sell it. the most important thing is to make a buck, no matter what.

WVOtoGO · #4 05-05-2010, 09:12 AM

Yes. It’s doesn’t seem right that thanks to a news broadcast, the potential terrorists may now know that there are a few things they shouldn’t do. Though I’m not so sure that not getting caught after the big boom is nearly as important to them as the big boom itself.

Also, you have to realize that in the big picture of things (terrorism), the potential terrorist is probably not going to consult a news broadcast to learn how to construct and deploy a bomb. (and get away with it)

If you want to limit the information necessary to construct and deploy bombs. Looking into limiting news broadcasts (their details) is not the place to start.

In the NYC case. I don’t think future terrorists are taking note that a can of firecrackers is not going to set off a closed (EPA Certified) can(s) of gasoline. Or, thinking about being tracked down by a craigslist purchase. Most are smart enough to know these things already. I think NYC got lucky in that this guy simply wasn’t that smart to begin with. If he was, he could/would have done a Google search on how to get those firecrackers to start the much bigger boom that he was looking for.

WVOtoGO · #5 05-05-2010, 09:27 AM

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that's because the media is run by a bunch of eggheads. it is all about selling the "news". the more outrageous the story, the more they want to sell it. the most important thing is to make a buck, no matter what.

I agree with what you’re saying here. But, I wouldn’t go so far as to call them “eggheads”.

They are actually pretty good at figuring out just how to reach out of a box in your living room. Grab you (average general public) around the neck. Make you listen to something they have to say. And most of all... make you believe what they are saying.

I'm thinking the "egghead" stamp might be better placed on most of their listeners.

HuskyMan · #6 05-05-2010, 09:47 AM

old saying: "It Takes Two to Tango"

one, the "talking heads" serving up their version of the "facts", and two, the moronic zoned out television viewer buying it hook, line and sinker.

I recently purchased a book titled, "The Unreality Industry - The Deliberate Manufacturing of Falsehood and What it is Dong to our Lives". the authors are Ian I. Mitroff and Warren Bennis. the cover has a picture of a guy in a suit with a television for a head. the television screen shows a big SMILE. the picture brings to mind Aklim's comment: "The Bigger the Smile, the sharper the knife".

on another note, some years back, I caught a story that featured the inventor of the PET (Positive Emission Tommography) imaging machine. he was speaking to an audience at UCLA. he showed the student audience images of PET scans of the brain while listening to an audio source. the brain was lit up like a LIGHT BULB. then, he showed an image of the brain while viewing television. I"ll never forget it. the brain literally SHUTS DOWN. cold, out of commission, as in "We've powered down the brain and the television is now controlling us".

there is a reason it is called the Idiot Box.

JollyRoger · #7 05-05-2010, 09:55 AM

^ So, looks like it's time to repeal the First Amendment.

HuskyMan · #8 05-05-2010, 10:13 AM

nobody said anything about the first amendment.

this is about talking heads serving up their version of the "facts" to a willing and gullible public willing to buy everything that comes from the mouths of CNN, MSNBC, Fox, local affiliates and all the rest.

a friend of mine is in the United States Navy and was aboard a ship that was part of a fleet involved in the Bosnian/Serbian conflict. aboard his ship was a CNN news correspondent. when he and the crew arrived back in the United States, they were excited to view the CNN news story.

only there was a problem, the CNN news story was WAY off base and did not accurately reflect what had happened. apparently, the CNN story was so far off, the commander of the United States Naval Fleet requested that CNN never be allowed on their ships ever again.

the news boys twist the facts to fit their version of the so-called "truth". has nothing to do with the first amendment, it has everything to do with accurate news reporting, something which over time, has gone the way of the pony express.

WVOtoGO · #9 05-05-2010, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by HuskyMan

nobody said anything about the first amendment.

this is about talking heads serving up their version of the "facts" to a willing and gullible public willing to buy everything that comes from the mouths of CNN, MSNBC, Fox, local affiliates and all the rest.

a friend of mine is in the United States Navy and was aboard a ship that was part of a fleet involved in the Bosnian/Serbian conflict. aboard his ship was a CNN news correspondent. when he and the crew arrived back in the United States, they were excited to view the CNN news story.

only there was a problem, the CNN news story was WAY off base and did not accurately reflect what had happened. apparently, the CNN story was so far off, the commander of the United States Naval Fleet requested that CNN never be allowed on their ships ever again.

the news boys twist the facts to fit their version of the so-called "truth". has nothing to do with the first amendment, it has everything to do with accurate news reporting, something which over time, has gone the way of the pony express.

X2

I’ll add that they tend to “twist” it as to have the most grab and impact too.

I know it’s a business. But when reporting without all the details (or leaving out details) has a huge negative impact on other business. Something should be done. I see it as a defamation/libel issue.

I know I’ve mentioned this before. But, the one thing that torques me up is their reporting of most anything related to aviation. Especially accidents.
When they find out that the carrier knew about cracks in a widget but flew anyway and report it as just that, not mentioning that the cracks are allowable and within safe limits. And you know the reporters know it. That really pisses me off.

Txjake · #10 05-05-2010, 10:34 AM

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^ So, looks like it's time to repeal the First Amendment.

yawn.....

WVOtoGO · #11 05-05-2010, 10:38 AM

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yawn.....

LOL

Translated into aviation terms: “Lets spool it up and go around the pattern one more time.”

HuskyMan · #12 05-05-2010, 10:42 AM

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X2

I’ll add that they tend to “twist” it as to have the most grab and impact too.

I know it’s a business. But when reporting without all the details (or leaving out details) has a huge negative impact on other business. Something should be done. I see it as a defamation/libel issue.

I know I’ve mentioned this before. But, the one thing that torques me up is their reporting of most anything related to aviation. Especially accidents.
When they find out that the carrier knew about cracks in a widget but flew anyway and report it as just that, not mentioning that the cracks are allowable and within safe limits. And you know the reporters know it. That really pisses me off.

x2. kinda like lies by omission. it isn't so much what they say sometimes, but what they DON'T say that is misleading. the film, "The Insider" starring Al Pacino and Russel Crowe goes deep into the belly of the beast (in this case, the news show "60 Minutes") and reveals what is REALLY motivating the news boys, M-O-N-E-Y.

SwampYankee · #13 05-05-2010, 10:43 AM

Although in their defense, a little Google search will probably bring up the "How-To" stuff.

tbomachines · #14 05-05-2010, 01:06 PM

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x2. kinda like lies by omission. it isn't so much what they say sometimes, but what they DON'T say that is misleading. the film, "The Insider" starring Al Pacino and Russel Crowe goes deep into the belly of the beast (in this case, the news show "60 Minutes") and reveals what is REALLY motivating the news boys, M-O-N-E-Y.

The mass news media revolves entirely around money. Journalists generally do their job in good faith (without major constraints) but the editors/producers sort of cut the stuff they don't want. Journalists generally aren't to blame, though they do get facts wrong, especially when they are sort of thrown into a situation. In this case with the bomb, I think it is pretty sad that they pretty much announced how to make the bomb on national TV. I feel the same way about "mega disasters" and shows like that. I remember seeing one where one suicidal bombing of a tanker in the bosphorous strait could send the entire world into financial meltdown...but don't give anyone any ideas now!

strelnik · #15 05-05-2010, 01:19 PM

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that's because the media is run by a bunch of eggheads. it is all about selling the "news". the more outrageous the story, the more they want to sell it. the most important thing is to make a buck, no matter what.

In the past there have been a few stories that were entirely fictional where someone punked the news media. We need to do that again.

Maybe with an explosive device made of a different high-energy substance?

I was thinkin' Velveeta.

Or Cheez-Wiz in the micro