Velveeta is different.

Velveeta was first found growing wild in the Onongadonga Valley in 912 A.D., where it was harvested as free food by poor students.

The custom of giving poor students Velveeta seeds for sustenance dates from the Middle Ages.

Later, Ricardo Subo, working with George Washington Carver, found ways to accelerate Velveeta growth by sprinkling biodiesel on it, making it cheap and plentiful.

Later Hugo Kraft and his brother Curtis patented Velveeta after a landmark case that went all the way to the Supreme Court:

You Can read about it: Kraft Bros vs Mother Smuckers.

Kraft still holds the rights to Velveeta although I understand the Chinese are now making their own version

Get ready for another legal challenge!!

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Cheap/end of the month meal...one box of store brand mac and cheese, one can of tuna, mix together, voila, nasty, cheap filling meal in 30 minutes.

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i thought hugo kraft had a brother who experimented with motor powered gliders, looked like a rabbit, and was nicknamed... "hare" kraft.

the gliders were made from the lightweight fronds of the rare velveeta palm tree - found only in along the banks of the cuyahoga - and joined together with a special aged blend of the dry paste from certain flavor packets and hellman's (known as best foods, west of the rockies) mayonnaise. of course, not knowing the importance of adding ketchup to the mixture, the project was doomed.

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I am continually amazed and impressed by the depth of knowledge which this brain trust of forum members represents....

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1950 170SD
1951 Citroen 11BN
1953 Citroen 11BNF limo
1953 220a project
1959 180D
1960 190D
1960 Borgward Isabella TS 2dr
1983 240D daily driver
1983 380SL
1990 350SDL daily driver alt
3 x Citroen DS21M, down from 5
3 x Citroen 2CV, down from 6

i don't think we've even scratched the surface of it. (but do we want to?)

for instance, i'm sure someone knows the "true " history of the twinkie? or pop tarts?

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"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."

Okay boys and girls, this is a link to a scan of a drawing of Jefferson's macaroni machine:

http://www.americaslibrary.gov/aa/jefferson/aa_jefferson_home_1.html

If any member of this forum wants to see the original, yes, I said the original, I can make it happen. I work at LOC. This is a national treasure and it belongs to everyone. Happy Independence Day. (I was just in Charlottesville, VA today. I could feel TJ's vibe as I drove through UVA campus.)

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My colleagues and I have tasted macaroons made from Jefferson's recipe. They were pretty bad.

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hey, jefferson and john adams both left this life on july 4th (1826)

not sure if the cause was too much macaroni, or not enough?

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"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."

Dunno but the day of their death-- 50 years after the Declaration whioch Jefferson wrote and Adams promoted-- is quite cool. There are articvles written about it. They were the last of the Founders to die.

They started as allies, became bitter enemies, then fast friends in later life.

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1950 170SD
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1953 Citroen 11BNF limo
1953 220a project
1959 180D
1960 190D
1960 Borgward Isabella TS 2dr
1983 240D daily driver
1983 380SL
1990 350SDL daily driver alt
3 x Citroen DS21M, down from 5
3 x Citroen 2CV, down from 6

Adams's last words were "Thomas Jefferson Survives."

http://www.findingdulcinea.com/news/on-this-day/July-August-08/On-this-Day--John-Adams-and-Thomas-Jefferson-Die.html

God bless America.

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1985 300TD Still 225,000 Sold
2016 Ford Fusion 24,900

They were among the last to die. I would not exclude Madison (underrated IMO) from that group.

yes, without dolly, all might have been lost. imagine this country without zingers and suzy-q's.

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"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."

Definitely not underrated, as the guy who drafted the Constitution, just like Jefferson did tghe Declaration. Plus he was the fourth president.

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1950 170SD
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1953 Citroen 11BNF limo
1953 220a project
1959 180D
1960 190D
1960 Borgward Isabella TS 2dr
1983 240D daily driver
1983 380SL
1990 350SDL daily driver alt
3 x Citroen DS21M, down from 5
3 x Citroen 2CV, down from 6

... also the Federalist Papers and the Bill of Rights.

I bet the average "guy on the street" wouldn't know that. Madison was pretty low-profile compared to the rest, and probably one of the most intelligent.