Hyundai Ad - Lame for spending money on a mercedes - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

HuskyMan · #1 07-19-2010, 11:22 AM

anyone see the latest television ad from Hyundai? A couple is driving the new Hyundai. The guy says that he feels lame for having spent money on a Mercedes. His wife/girl friend chimes in with him. It appears that Mercedes is the brand that some car manufacturers feel the need to compare to.

Jim B. · #2 07-19-2010, 11:32 AM

For some years now Mercedes Benz itself is squandering its OWN brand name equity, with the marketing department "You too can drive a band new Mercedes Benz for just $299 a month" , ( ie,translated: lease a stripped down C class) shoving aside the engineers "The best or nothing".

Examples are answering questions nobody asked, the R class, the C230 hatchbacks, etc.

I personally feel that nowadays with the over-computerized, cupholderized, uber complex and prone to fail systems that are fantastically difficult to fix, abysmal qulity control and build quality compared to 25 years ago, the Mercedes Benz brand is being tarnished beyond repair, and the Walmart philosophy of "Pile 'em high and sell 'em cheap" rules.

A new Mercedes Benz for me now, is no longer anything I would aspire to own. Even many actual techs that work on these cars in the Mercdes Benz dealer service departments agree with that.

The fake Merceedes w9th its 10 year factory warranty might be a better deal than the real one.

AT LEAST Until you have your accident when it crumples like crepe paper. The new Benzes are still safer, I give them that.

sublakedesron · #3 07-19-2010, 11:38 AM

I saw it and every time i see it i laugh at the fake/wannabe pimp with the black suit and green tie.

HuskyMan · #4 07-19-2010, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim B.

For some years now Mercedes Benz itself is squandering its OWN brand name equity, with the marketing department "You too can drive a band new Mercedes Benz for just $299 a month" , ( ie,translated: lease a stripped down C class) shoving aside the engineers "The best or nothing".

Examples are answering questions nobody asked, the R class, the C230 hatchbacks, etc.

I personally feel that nowadays with the over-computerized, cupholderized, uber complex and prone to fail systems that are fantastically difficult to fix, abysmal qulity control and build quality compared to 25 years ago, the Mercedes Benz brand is being tarnished beyond repair, and the Walmart philosophy of "Pile 'em high and sell 'em cheap" rules.

A new Mercedes Benz for me now, is no longer anything I would aspire to own. Even many actual techs that work on these cars in the Mercdes Benz dealer service departments agree with that.

The fake Merceedes w9th its 10 year factory warranty might be a better deal than the real one.

AT LEAST Until you have your accident when it crumples like crepe paper. The new Benzes are still safer, I give them that.

Unfortunately, I agree with your assessment of the current line up. the company has taken a road south and the build quality isn't what it used to be. it's too bad because they used to be the world's standard. it is time for Mercedes to get back to the quality they used to build and rise to the top again.....

TheDon · #5 07-19-2010, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by HuskyMan

anyone see the latest television ad from Hyundai? A couple is driving the new Hyundai. The guy says that he feels lame for having spent money on a Mercedes. His wife/girl friend chimes in with him. It appears that Mercedes is the brand that some car manufacturers feel the need to compare to.

These are people that buy cars as statements and to look better than others. They do not appreciate a vehicle for its engineering and and pedigree.

I could go out right now and buy a mutt.. yes a run of the mill mutt. It can probably run fast, retrieve, sit, stay, roll over, but it does not have the pedigree of a documented pure bread German Shepard

here is an idea, take the same people from those commercials and stick them in a C63 AMG or what have you with a fresh set of tires and full tank of gas. But the same people that look at the Genesis or w/e it is don't exactly go out and blow 100k on a car

raymr · #6 07-19-2010, 12:21 PM

I thought the new C Class was turning things around. Don't they show 200lb. people sitting on the doors?

mytmousemalibu · #7 07-19-2010, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim B.

For some years now Mercedes Benz itself is squandering its OWN brand name equity, with the marketing department "You too can drive a band new Mercedes Benz for just $299 a month" , ( ie,translated: lease a stripped down C class) shoving aside the engineers "The best or nothing".

Examples are answering questions nobody asked, the R class, the C230 hatchbacks, etc.

I personally feel that nowadays with the over-computerized, cupholderized, uber complex and prone to fail systems that are fantastically difficult to fix, abysmal qulity control and build quality compared to 25 years ago, the Mercedes Benz brand is being tarnished beyond repair, and the Walmart philosophy of "Pile 'em high and sell 'em cheap" rules.

A new Mercedes Benz for me now, is no longer anything I would aspire to own. Even many actual techs that work on these cars in the Mercdes Benz dealer service departments agree with that.

The fake Merceedes w9th its 10 year factory warranty might be a better deal than the real one.

AT LEAST Until you have your accident when it crumples like crepe paper. The new Benzes are still safer, I give them that.

I was a Dealer BMW tech (indy now) but same story with them. I love em and always will but there QC has gone down the *****ter. The newer cars are overly complicated in everyway. These features they are installing are super cool but kinda negates the cool factor when it fails all the time.

TylerH860 · #8 07-19-2010, 01:14 PM

I ran into the woman who bought my BMW X5, and I guess she takes it down to your shop. Its been just as troubled since I traded it in, apparently it needs an AC recharge every spring among other things.

Do you recognize it? The 4.6is wheels sort of set it off, and it was immaculate. Its safe to say it was the worst car I have ever had, even though I enjoyed it.

mytmousemalibu · #9 07-19-2010, 01:23 PM

Looks familure! However we see a ton of them! Earlier E65-E66's have tons of problems. You should see the lists of bullitins on them. Putting an engine in one as we speak. Think it was the owners fault. Ate some bearings in the lower end. He said he thinks it had oil......Moron. The bad part, this car had a family of rats an mice in it, so naturally is smells horrid, glad im bout done!

TylerH860 · #10 07-19-2010, 01:40 PM

Mine had a lifter noise from 24k until I sold it at 75k. An unacceptable amount of stuff broke before and after the warranty, and I traded it in when it started making some odd suspension noises, the LCD was slowly de-pixelating, and I think one of my front half shafts was finally dying after being re-booted twice (heard the death whir intermittently)

I was so disgusted with it, the last year I owned the X5 I decided to make my 300D the daily driver. I only put 5k on it in the last year and it still had 5 grand+ in issues, and that was at indy repair prices. It probably would have been double at the dealer.

I still keep in touch with the owners of my old 2004 E500 4-matic as well, and they take it to my indy for servicing. In the last year outside of normal maintenance, its needed a heater valve, front rotors and a power steering service thankfully alleviated the groaning. I wondering how long until one of those $1000 air-matic struts fails or something with the electronic brakes. That was the only thing that really scared me with the car, other than the million other little electronic things.

My 91 560SEL may not be able to cool and massage my back and butt, but it feels just as comfortable, and I don't have to drive it in fear.

Hatterasguy · #11 07-19-2010, 01:47 PM

Its just a dumb commercial.

I havn't driven one of those big Hyundai's first I assume they are RWD because if not they don't even compare. But lets see how it compares to a MB at 150mph or on some very spirited fast back roads.

Hyundai makes a good car, they should concentrate on their own brand insted of trying to be the fake Rolex of the car world. Everytime I see one it looks like a MB, BMW, and Lexus had a three way and thats what came out after 9 months!

Honus · #12 07-19-2010, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mytmousemalibu

I was a Dealer BMW tech (indy now) but same story with them. I love em and always will but there QC has gone down the *****ter. The newer cars are overly complicated in everyway. These features they are installing are super cool but kinda negates the cool factor when it fails all the time.

In your estimation, when did BMW take a turn for the worse? I'm hoping it was after 1999 because I just bought a beautifully maintained 528i of that year. It's also known as an E39 model, manufactured between 1997 and 2003, I think. Based on surfing some BMW forums, I got the impression that the E39 was the last 5-series BMW that maintained some semblance of BMW's old-school ways.

I've had it for 2 months. It's a beauty.

TylerH860 · #13 07-19-2010, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Honus

In your estimation, when did BMW take a turn for the worse? I'm hoping it was after 1999 because I just bought a beautifully maintained 528i of that year. It's also known as an E39 model, manufactured between 1997 and 2003, I think. Based on surfing some BMW forums, I got the impression that the E39 was the last 5-series BMW that maintained some semblance of BMW's old-school ways.

I've had it for 2 months. It's a beauty.

Keep an eye on that temp gauge. There's lots of plastic parts in the cooling system and the head gasket/heads love to fail when they get hot. I've seen plenty in my friends junkyard because of them. Mytmousemalibu knows a whole lot more than me, but if it were my car I'd replace all the older plastic components in the cooling system as preventative maintenance. You're still going to have the pixel issues with the display and other stupid little stuff most likely.

HuskyMan · #14 07-19-2010, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TylerH860

Mine had a lifter noise from 24k until I sold it at 75k. An unacceptable amount of stuff broke before and after the warranty, and I traded it in when it started making some odd suspension noises, the LCD was slowly de-pixelating, and I think one of my front half shafts was finally dying after being re-booted twice (heard the death whir intermittently)

I was so disgusted with it, the last year I owned the X5 I decided to make my 300D the daily driver. I only put 5k on it in the last year and it still had 5 grand+ in issues, and that was at indy repair prices. It probably would have been double at the dealer.

I still keep in touch with the owners of my old 2004 E500 4-matic as well, and they take it to my indy for servicing. In the last year outside of normal maintenance, its needed a heater valve, front rotors and a power steering service thankfully alleviated the groaning. I wondering how long until one of those $1000 air-matic struts fails or something with the electronic brakes. That was the only thing that really scared me with the car, other than the million other little electronic things.

My 91 560SEL may not be able to cool and massage my back and butt, but it feels just as comfortable, and I don't have to drive it in fear.

basically, today's cars are over-computerized rolling repair bills. I, like you believe a 1991 560SEL is far less complex than today's Mercedes or BMWs and therefore more reliable and less troublesome. I'd like to see Mercedes get back to what they used to be, a great car.

TylerH860 · #15 07-19-2010, 02:40 PM

Unfortunately, age plays a factor in these cars which can make them equally troublesome. Thankfully my 560 was completely gone through, about 10k worth, before my ownership.