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Old 07-31-2010, 01:36 PM
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National Manufacturing Strategy Act,H.R.4692

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Old 07-31-2010, 01:54 PM
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I bet I have more American made things than you.
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Old 07-31-2010, 02:07 PM
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Old 07-31-2010, 03:47 PM
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If you have a foreign car built in the US or a US car built abroad how do they get counted?
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Old 07-31-2010, 04:51 PM
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I guess they same way they always have been. Chrysler has been assembling cars in Mexico for sale in the Mexican market for at least 25 years, so I guess they have it worked out.

I was thinking about this the other day and I remember that Germany was in an economic slump during the 60's so they went on a program of promoting exports. It worked well for them.

The US used to be big sponsors of Trade Fairs overseas where lots of orders were written for US products. If a country could not afford it at the time they were helped out by a loan from the Ex-Im bank.

Ex-Im loans could only be used to buy products that were made in the US, and one that recently came to light was one to Brazil to help it develop its' oil fields. This bit of work on the part of the State Dept. resulted in a $2 Billion loan to Brazil and all of the money has to be spent on buying American equipment and that will create American jobs.

One big problem the current crop of Republicans have with this bill is that it is coming from Democrats and it will create jobs. Why is this a problem? Because the program is almost a carbon copy of one put into place by Ronnie Reagan himself that worked very well. How can the Repubs gripe about re-starting a program that Ronnie himself proved to work?

Republicans should be fully behind this and point out Reagan's involvement in it back in the 1980's. It will be interesting to see if this comes about.
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Old 07-31-2010, 06:52 PM
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Even if something were made abroad the amount of hands it passes through once it reaches our ports is staggering. I don't know exactly how it gets to me but I know it needs to be unloaded by a dockworker, inventoried by someone, in some cases inspected by someone, loaded onto a truck by someone, driven somewhere by a truck driver to some distribution center, unloaded, inventoried, loaded again on another truck, driven by someone again to Walmart, unloaded, inventoried, stocked, and purchased at a point of sale.

That's 13 people, 13 jobs.

If I buy local I go to the market and buy it. It's grown by a farmer who then brings it over to the market and I ride my bike down to get it.

That's one person, one job.

Am I off target?
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Old 07-31-2010, 08:40 PM
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Yup, you are wrong.

WalMart has gone to great lengths to cut these steps out. Once a container is loaded in China it is usually not opened until it gets to the Walmart warehouse. From there it is loaded off the container and then right on to the truck taking it to the store.

There it is unloaded and taken to the floor where it is stocked.

That is three American jobs total.

An American farmer must buy seeds and supplies from a farm store (1) and then there is the farmer himself (2) who takes it to a farmers market that is usually employees two or three people (3) and (4) and maybe (5) unless they are selling from a stand in their front yard.
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Old 07-31-2010, 09:08 PM
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How about the "Let's Repeal the Law of Gravity Act"? That might work.
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Old 07-31-2010, 11:42 PM
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Obviously you guys don't understand the concept of fixed costs. These are the costs to have the infrastructure in place before the first object in question even arrives. You can't sit there and say object X needs Y number of hands to pass through. You have no idea.
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Old 08-01-2010, 03:33 PM
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I think Kuan was trying to say something about the number of people employed in business. To wit: If something is made in America will it really produce more jobs? His numbers were good, but.....

It was the Wal-Mart example he used that skewed things since Wal-Mart is a world leader in moving products without moving them much. Sam Walton wrote in his book that he was totally opposed to all this Logistics stuff until it was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt because of the large infrastructure that would be required to make it work.

Cost were something that Walton tried to keep to a minimum and all he could see with the system Wal-Mart now uses is a whole lot of upfront sunk costs.

But the Board of Directors overruled him and gave the OK for the project and now the way Wal-Mart moves their products is the envy of the industry.

By the way, Wal-Mart is now moving one step further with the Internet. You can buy a product from some of their suppliers and it is drop shipped to your door so even fewer people are required to touch it.

The current management seems to be moving away from the sayings of Sam Walton to the sayings of Sachael Paige who said, "Don't look back. Someone might be gaining on you."
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Yup, you are wrong.

WalMart has gone to great lengths to cut these steps out. Once a container is loaded in China it is usually not opened until it gets to the Walmart warehouse. From there it is loaded off the container and then right on to the truck taking it to the store.

There it is unloaded and taken to the floor where it is stocked.

That is three American jobs total.

An American farmer must buy seeds and supplies from a farm store (1) and then there is the farmer himself (2) who takes it to a farmers market that is usually employees two or three people (3) and (4) and maybe (5) unless they are selling from a stand in their front yard.
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