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Old 10-21-2010, 09:34 AM
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Not the tranny answer I was hoping for

Gretel (our 91 300TE 4matic) has been leaking transmission fluid for a while - not much, but it drips onto the exhaust, so she throws pretty danged impressive clouds of smoke. Renders her pretty much useless.

At 162k miles, she's just getting broken in otherwise. Some issues to be dealt with (leaky rear side windows most pressing), but overall solid. If the leak just dripped to the ground, I'd spend $10 on a drip pan and check fluid levels more often and drive on.

Got an estimate this morning from a transmission shop that is well recommended in town. Leak is coming from a solenoid on the top of the transmission, it can't be pulled without dropping the tranny. Seal not available from Mercedes except as part of a complete seal kit ($220). Total tab to essentially replace a washer: $1,600. Sigh.

Looking at Fastlane, should be able to get the specific seals and o-ring without buying the whole kit, and the trans guy is willing to only pull/loosen wiggle around what he has to to replace the seal - and charge actual time, not book hours. Thinks he can get to it without fully removing the transmission, so it may be less....

Mark (trans guy) even said (with a hearty belly laugh) cheapest route may well be to remove the seats and cut a hole in the floor...... dead serious, I said if it'll save me a grand, I'm game!

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Old 10-21-2010, 10:06 AM
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Before I got to your last paragraph I was going to recommend the same solution. Cutting the hole is a no-brainer in my opinion if it would give adequate access. Just screw down a piece of sheet metal to cover it when done.
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Old 10-21-2010, 05:41 PM
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Before I got to your first paragraph I thought this was an entirely different topic...
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Old 10-21-2010, 05:42 PM
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Before I got to your last paragraph I was going to recommend the same solution. Cutting the hole is a no-brainer in my opinion if it would give adequate access. Just screw down a piece of sheet metal to cover it when done.
How would you fix this area now that it is more prone to rust?
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Before I got to your first paragraph I thought this was an entirely different topic...
Please elaborate.
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Please elaborate.
uh oh.
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How would you fix this area now that it is more prone to rust?
Paint it with Rustoleum.
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Old 10-22-2010, 03:37 AM
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I would be game for cutting a hole.


But more seriously, my friend whos an MB tech pulled and reinstalled my transmission in 4 hours including replacing the rear main seal.




Only cost me about $150 for labor too!
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Old 10-22-2010, 09:03 AM
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Paint it with Rustoleum.
People have suggested that but I am really leery about cutting parts on the car. On the Powerstroke, to change the oil pan, some have resorted to cutting the cross member and welding it back. This isn't structural but somehow, I prefer to take the trans out and perhaps refresh it.
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Old 10-22-2010, 09:12 AM
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I'd love to just spend the money for a complete R&R and a refresh - but the number of other projects that need our limited time and money dictate that we make the best use of each that we can.

Mechanic says he would love to be able to get it done without dropping the tranny all the way - says these are a bear to do. Gonna give him the go ahead to invest a couple hours to figure out if he can get to the leak by dropping the exhaust and loosening bits. Best case, if he can get access without a complete pull, will be something like 3-4 hours labor plus parts.

If that works, we've got lots of leftover fundage to go towards other projects.
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Old 10-22-2010, 09:16 AM
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I would never cut a hole. There was at least once case involving a car with a hole cut in the lower back seat pan for fuel pump access. The car was later rear ended and totaled for what should have been a minor accident. But the hole provided a kink point and the car basically folded on that point.

So if you do cut holes in he main body, dont get in an accident!

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