http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-11605365

If you read to the end of this article the quotes of the interview with her commander are ironic to put it mildly I think, under the circumstances.

- Peter.

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In any navy, if you screw up in public with a nuclear powered vessel, your career is pretty much over.

No doubt, I just wonder if here might be something more probelmatic here, such as with the whole no more helm, lets drive by wire thing.

- Peter.

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Happens, Captains career is over. He will be at a desk or retired in a month.

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I liked the part where it said it could remain hidden just off the coast. Not working too well.
It's either a beginner's navigational error or an electronic problem. Will the captain be on the hook if it's a software problem? Was it submerged when it happened or was there a watch on the conning tower?

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The competition for submarine captain slots is quite fierce - they all know that it could be some noob sonar tech that forgets to call out something and they run the ship aground...and lose their command.

Its not tough to go aground in a sub - regular surface vessels have 2 screws and usually bow thrusters - they can turn in place. Subs have one screw and no thrusters - it makes navigation difficult when you are near the shore where the currents are more than 2 or 3 knots. You'll never see a sub dock itself - they always get tugs- 2 of available.
Should they know better ? yeah - but whent he competition is so fierce for the slots, being able to hang out in 'dangerous' places is what makes the difference between getting your own submarine squadron or going to lead a ROTC unit at some liberal-stronghold college in the mdwest =)

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We pulled into Portugal in 89ish. No tugs available till after 1500. Our capt paralell parked us using the out board.
We were tied up by1130.
That was a peice of work!

PS the Capt really wanted a beer

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Speaking to the BBC last month, HMS Astute's commanding officer, Commander Andy Coles, said: "We have a brand new method of controlling the submarine, which is by platform management system, rather than the old conventional way of doing everything of using your hands".



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkhTA6MQ3BQ

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This is not the first time, Royal Navy grounded a Sub in the same spot. First time was in 2002, so it is hard for them to say that the new technology is to blame.

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You might have just found the root cause =) the British boats bring beer with them - the crew of the HMS groundpounder had no reason NOT to run aground =)

Were you an S5W boat with a real outboard or the cheap imitation spm that the 688's got ?


We did Lisboa in 1997 IIRC - we parked across the river next door to some portugese hick-town (the targets got all the good berths near town)- still a neat place to visit if you get the chance

In some ways, a river is easier to park in - one current that always goes in one direction at a relatively contstant speed.

I was always in the engine room when it happened, but I remember one maneuvering watch brief that included the term "30 degrees of crab..." somewhere in long island sound...

...So, in non-mariner terms - whenever you get near a long shoreline, esp one with island nearby, the currents can change direction, or move very fast, which makes it easier to run your ship aground if you are just trying to hang out (if you are going somewhere, you'll make way and your rudder will be more effective at getting you out of trouble)

Being on a sub is a wonderful place to be from =)

-John

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