www.countercurrents.org/Deaths in other Nations since WW-2 Due to U.S. involvement.

10-15 million deaths during the Korean, Vietnam, 2-Iraq wars.
Korea includes Chinese deaths. Vietnam includes Cambodia and Laos.
14 million in Afghanastan,Angola,Democratic Republic of The Congo,East Timor,Indonesia,Pakistan,Sudan.
www.intellnet.org/resources/american-terrorism/chronologyof terror.
www.globalresearch.ca/articles/BRZ110A
www.unknownnews.net/casualties
www.thirdworldtraveler.com/American_Empire/century_imperialism
www.zmag.org/forums/chomcambodforum
www.moreorless.au.com/killers/pinchonet
www.etext.org
www.edu/communicationsstudies/ben/news/cia/96125death
www.9-11peace.org
www.geocities.com/~virtualtruth/indon.
www.namebase.org/scott
www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April Glaspie


Who among you is proud of these statistics?

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CHILCUTT~
The secret to a long life. Is knowing when it is time to leave.

Quit being stupid.

- Peter.

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2021 Chevrolet Spark
Formerly...
2000 GMC Sonoma
1981 240D 4spd stick. 347000 miles. Deceased Feb 14 2021
2002 Kia Rio. Worst crap on four wheels
1981 240D 4spd stick. 389000 miles.
1984 123 200
1979 116 280S
1972 Cadillac Sedan DeVille
1971 108 280S

I'll see your 29 million and raise you another 35 million

-- Joe Stalin

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1950 170SD
1951 Citroen 11BN
1953 Citroen 11BNF limo
1953 220a project
1959 180D
1960 190D
1960 Borgward Isabella TS 2dr
1983 240D daily driver
1983 380SL
1990 350SDL daily driver alt
3 x Citroen DS21M, down from 5
3 x Citroen 2CV, down from 6

I'll see your 64 million and raise you another 6 million

- Mao Tse Dong

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Strelnik
Invest in America: Buy a Congressman!

1950 170SD
1951 Citroen 11BN
1953 Citroen 11BNF limo
1953 220a project
1959 180D
1960 190D
1960 Borgward Isabella TS 2dr
1983 240D daily driver
1983 380SL
1990 350SDL daily driver alt
3 x Citroen DS21M, down from 5
3 x Citroen 2CV, down from 6

Not me. I think that it's a deliberate undercount in an attempt to diminish our accomplishments.

You should stop hanging out with us bloodthirsty Americans.

The other question: How do we divide up the enemy casulaties from the Cylon wars?

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Strelnik
Invest in America: Buy a Congressman!

1950 170SD
1951 Citroen 11BN
1953 Citroen 11BNF limo
1953 220a project
1959 180D
1960 190D
1960 Borgward Isabella TS 2dr
1983 240D daily driver
1983 380SL
1990 350SDL daily driver alt
3 x Citroen DS21M, down from 5
3 x Citroen 2CV, down from 6

Get real! The Cylon wars? They are just make believe. Now, the war among the inhabitants of Middle-Earth on the other hand...

Nobody? The US is an imperial power. It's a given.

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1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

Imperial? If the US was a real imperial power the country would not be a debtor nation.
Imperial? Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo would not have rated a paragraph on page 20 in the NY Times.
Imperial? When corporations are pillaging the national treasury with the help of goverment 'outsourcing' policies?

If the US really has an urge to empire it has a very disfunctional way of obtaining one.

Oh- the bazillions of deaths attributed to US foriegn policy? Read some more history. The US is a lightweight when it comes to decimating entire populations and subjugating the survivors while raping the resources. Think Hitler, Stalin, Britain, Spain, Rome...

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95 E300D working out the kinks
77 300D, 227k, station car
83 300CD 370k, gone away
89 190E 2.6- 335k, no more
79 VW FI Bus- 145k miles, summer driver
59 VW Beetle ragtop- 175k miles
12 VW Jetta- 160k miles

the u.s. is a minor imperial power on it's way out. remember, there's money to be made in building an empire, and money to be made in destroying one.

(uh, when you're counting, don't forget the native americans and the blacks who built this country, as well as those that died on the way here. )

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Quit being an angry hothead, because you were conscripted by a Peon legion of 'Durban-Cowboy's', and not afforded the opportunity to experiance the way real serial killers do things.
I dont believe you have the stomach for it anyway.
All talk-no action. Maybee just count your ammunition pile, smell the gun-grease-roll out the wartime documentary's.... and dream~....

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We're not half as bad as Mao. That's reassuring. Since they were worse, we get a pass.

We spent decades obtaining empire the old fashioned way. Ever hear of Smedley Butler, Maj. Gen. USMC? He died in 1940. Most decorated soldier in history at the time of his death. Participated in many a nation grabbing escapade when he was in the service and spoke out about it later when he figured out the full truth:

-- Excerpt from a speech delivered in 1933, by Major General Smedley Butler, USMC.

War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses.

I believe in adequate defense at the coastline and nothing else. If a nation comes over here to fight, then we'll fight. The trouble with America is that when the dollar only earns 6 percent over here, then it gets restless and goes overseas to get 100 percent. Then the flag follows the dollar and the soldiers follow the flag.

I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.

There isn't a trick in the racketeering bag that the military gang is blind to. It has its "finger men" to point out enemies, its "muscle men" to destroy enemies, its "brain men" to plan war preparations, and a "Big Boss" Super-Nationalistic-Capitalism.

It may seem odd for me, a military man to adopt such a comparison. Truthfulness compels me to. I spent thirty- three years and four months in active military service as a member of this country's most agile military force, the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle- man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.

I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all the members of the military profession, I never had a thought of my own until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service.

I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912 (where have I heard that name before?). I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.

During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. Looking back on it, I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.

His book can be read at:

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html

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1986 300SDL, 362K
1984 300D, 138K

Wow, this is breathtaking. What a read! Nothing to be added.
Good job, Carl!

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I envy your potential.

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