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chilcutt 01-02-2011 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim (Post 2622974)
Not sure about that one. If there is a murder or suspicion of foul play there WILL be an autopsy, at least in many places. My buddy's grandma died at home of heart failure. However, because she collapsed and was probably dead before she hit the ground but her head hit the dresser and broke skin, there was a simple autopsy done. All depends on who is willing to sign off on the death certificate. IIRC, my wife has sent a few stiffs for autopsy when there is something could possibly have an abuse or suspicious case. Basically it is a CYA but I don't get into that. Dead people creep me out so I have a simple deal with the wife. You don't tell me you have a dead patient and my fantasy is nobody dies.

I suppose in ancient times and maybe even today sometimes, when your mealticket dies, it is a very tragic thing. Why do you think my grandmother stuck with my grandfather although she found out he had another family on the side? Simple. Her skills were house keeping and mahjong. Neither could support her if she left. He was the only literate one.

I should have added-'as long as foul play is not suspected'. By that I mean here in Singapore..which is civilised. If I croak in say..Indonesia? who knows...

aklim 01-02-2011 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by davestlouis (Post 2623025)
Aklim, the manufacturers have some sort of certification process with the Vaad, or rabbinical council, to certify that the manufacturing plant is kept kosher. We trust them to not fib about it.

Make no mistake, people of all faiths like to show off at the time of death. I just love some of the Italian families we serve...some will get over 100 floral arrangements delivered, and the luncheon after committal is a huge social event.

OK. Didn't know how that works. Just curious.

I told my wife that it has to be a party with booze, hookers gambling, etc, etc.

aklim 01-02-2011 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by chilcutt (Post 2623038)
I should have added-'as long as foul play is not suspected'. By that I mean here in Singapore..which is civilised. If I croak in say..Indonesia? who knows...

Depends on how much money you got.

chilcutt 01-04-2011 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by kerry (Post 2622951)
Jesus, man, don't you find that incredibly sexist? Next thing you know they'll be banning women from births too.

LOL!! Hey I didnt come up with this policy. Sounded weird to me to. Oh well..watta-ya gonna do.

SwampYankee 01-04-2011 09:49 AM

I'm a traditionalist, but have been considering alternative burial methods to the standard calling hours & viewing>funeral>burial process lately. I'm not entirely sure how I want to go out. Probably more keg party than pity party.

On a related matter, I present my uncle's obit from this past March. I hope when I'm done, mine is at least half as interesting. His death, how he approached it and how he wanted things to play out kind of spurred me to get away from tradition a bit. He donated his body to the University of New England Med School for research. Once they're finished with it, he will be cremated and the remains will be buried in our family plot.
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Thomas Turner ****, of Newport, Maine passed away March 15, 2010 after a long battle with cancer. Tom led an interesting and varied life. He was Navy Jet Carrier Pilot, Army Mash Unit Helicopter Pilot, Mechanical Engineer, Inventor, and Land Developer. He was particularly attracted to toys and owned at one time or another a motor cycle, Corvette, backhoe, bulldozer, two fire trucks, road grader, numerous boats, kayaks and a Submarine he built himself. And he used his toys. He set out to ride every road in central Maine on his motorcycle, circumnavigated South Florida through the Okeechobee waterway and drove his boat from Bangor, Me to Wethersfield, CT in less than 24 hours.

In addition to his flying jobs he served his community Newport in various capacities including Policeman, Volunteer Fireman, Selectman, and President of the Lake Association. He was very concerned with the health and well-being of Lake Sebasticook which was his front yard. He voluntarily designed and built a hydraulically controlled flash board for the dam in Newport to more easily control the height of the lake.

Tom loved to travel. In addition to his all expense paid trip to the Mediterranean courtesy of the US Navy, Tom sought out warmer climates to escape the Maine Winters. For several seasons he lived aboard one of his boats which he trailered from Maine to Cross Key Florida. He also wintered on Lake Havasu in Arizona. His favorite place was Australia. He made multiple trips there where he crisscrossed the country by plane, train and drove across the outback by automobile.

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The family also thanks the Doctors, Nurses and Staff who worked diligently to try to keep Tom comfortable in the Hospice Unit at Togus VA Hospital. Tom's wish to help future medical professionals was realized as his body was accepted by the University of New England School of Medicine for medical research and teaching.

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We quote the following from Tom's Statement of Interment, Cremation and Wishes: "My further wishes and directives are as follows: There is to be no funeral of any kind, nor the sending of flowers or cards. Instead, use the money to have a beer for me. If you want closure – put the cap back on the bottle. This request shall be printed in all obituary notices."

Here's to Tom, fly high, sail fast and rest in peace.
His stone. He had this made up two years ago. The end date has since been filled in. It now sits on a pallet in our warehouse awaiting the return of his body.
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...nkee/TTH-1.jpg

benhogan 01-04-2011 09:51 AM

Cremate or traditional?

Have you considered a half and half?

450slcguy 01-04-2011 10:05 AM

What if I want my ashes buried in a Cemetary? What are the procedures for that?

Mistress 01-04-2011 10:14 AM

Funerals are for the Living and with that said. I want to be cremated and my ashes put in a Manolo Blahnik shoe box and then after words a big GTG! And I want Blazing Saddles shown as part of the entertainment.

Dee8go and I were discussing this and he wants his cremated ashes put in a rocket and then launched at a GTG at PowerPig's house. Any rocket experts here on OD?

dynalow 01-04-2011 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by benhogan (Post 2624713)
Cremate or traditional?

Have you considered a half and half?

Split in two?
Like Ted Williams??:eek::rolleyes:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/12/20/national/main533849.shtml

SwampYankee 01-04-2011 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 450slcguy (Post 2624720)
What if I want my ashes buried in a Cemetary? What are the procedures for that?

You can have that done. Once my uncles ashes arrive, they'll be buried in our family's plot in the urn, marked with his headstone.

More and more cemeteries are putting in columbariums (like mausoleums but for public storage of remains rather than a single person) due to the space issue. I serve on the Board for our Village Cemetery Association (we have stones dating back to the 1600's) and we just recently approved the construction of a columbarium and purchased the land for it. It was driven by two factors, more individuals are opting for cremation and space for traditional burials will become an issue in the next decade or so. The issue we run into is that so many of our grave site are historically significant. So even though the remains are long gone, moving the stones and reusing the plots in a large part of the burial grounds isn't even a consideration.

TX76513 01-04-2011 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by The Clk Man (Post 2622297)
I told the wife to just throw me into a ditch when I die, because I won't need my earthly body anymore. :)

With your suggested amount of alcohol consupmtion creamation is probably not a good choice as you would probably burn for several weeks:D

I am going with creamation - and NO Services. Dead is Dead

Mike D 01-04-2011 11:02 AM

I figure on cremation considering where my afterlife is probably going to be.:eek: Might as well get a head start.:D

dynalow 01-04-2011 11:26 AM

I suggest that you formalize your wishes in writing, to avoid conflict among children or your spouse over what to do. Leaving it up to your decendents can lead to conflict. It's your body. YOU make the call. Don't wuss out. It's the same concept as a living will, only the flip side of the coin.;)

My choice will be cremation. Toss my ashes in the surf at the end of the street. :cool:
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...ht11-13-09.jpg

aklim 01-04-2011 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by chilcutt (Post 2624557)
LOL!! Hey I didnt come up with this policy. Sounded weird to me to. Oh well..watta-ya gonna do.

Tell them to take the policy and shove it?

buffa98 01-04-2011 03:25 PM

Kind of like this.

http://www.boston.com/news/world/asia/articles/2008/11/02/ashes_of_survivor_of_uss_indianapolis_sinking_buried_at_sea/

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Originally Posted by Angel (Post 2622517)
I'd kinda like to be cremated and my ashes spread at sea from a submarine. I'm not 100% sure if you can specify what kind of vessel you get thrown from, nor is my wife a big fan of cremation (good call on the fuel useage though...)

Burials at sea were always performed within 30 minutes of leaving the base (Groton CT), so we were relatively close to shore. There was (I was told, I was never topside to see this) a rifleman and a prayer/short saying spoken by a designated officer (only room for 4[?]) people in the conning tower of a modern sub) and then the ashes are thrown. I'm sure there is more to it than that, but whenever we were in the frantic state of going to sea, and the PA system announced "All hands - silence about the decks during burial"- it sent a chill down my spine (and reminded me to keep my head on straight when operating a nuclear power plant).
Lotsa good submariners on the bottom of the ocean, I was lucky to surface as many times as I submerged.

-John



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