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Old 02-18-2011, 08:40 AM
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Hapless Racism, Part Duex

Wait...I thought all the racist buffoons lived in the south.....oh well, it is SOUTH NJ..

Three men have been arrested and charged in connection to a burning cross spotted off the side of a highway in southern New Jersey.Investigators say an African-American family lives near the area where the cross was found.


http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2011/02/17/3-arrested-in-connection-to-new-jersey-cross-burning/

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Old 02-18-2011, 08:47 AM
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If that is the basis of the whole thing, what area can I live in with NO African Americans in it?
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Yeah, right. All us Southerners are racists and the Northerners are just wonderful people!
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Yeah, right. All us Southerners are racists and the Northerners are just wonderful people!
dont miss the irony: I am from the south....and still live there. Interstingly enough, I have run into way more severe racist attitudes in the north than down home.
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I've spent pretty much my whole life in Virginia, but have family connections in Pennsylvania and Massachusetts. In some ways, it seems that the north has been more segregated than the south. On the other hand, it is telling that the Governor of Mississippi would say this:
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Both Mr. Mott and Mr. Kelly had told me that Yazoo City was perhaps the only municipality in Mississippi that managed to integrate the schools without violence. I asked Haley Barbour why he thought that was so.

"Because the business community wouldn't stand for it," he said. "You heard of the Citizens Councils? Up north they think it was like the KKK. Where I come from it was an organization of town leaders. In Yazoo City they passed a resolution that said anybody who started a chapter of the Klan would get their ass run out of town. If you had a job, you'd lose it. If you had a store, they'd see nobody shopped there. We didn't have a problem with the Klan in Yazoo City."
In interviews Barbour doesn't have much to say about growing up in the midst of the civil rights revolution. "I just don't remember it as being that bad," he said. "I remember Martin Luther King came to town, in '62. He spoke out at the old fairground and it was full of people, black and white." [emphasis added]

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2010/12/the-fix-called-attention-this.html
He doesn't remember it as being that bad? Well, why do you suppose that is? To me, Barbor's statement reveals a level of arrogant detachment and a lack of emphathy. People complain about a double standard that excuses black racists and punishes white ones. Well, too friggin bad. If there is a double standard, we earned it.

And another thing, I think Barbor's fond recollection of those fine business people in Yazoo City might be missing a few details here and there.
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Hey, just one of the murder victims was black, that's not too bad...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_civil_rights_workers_murders
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dont miss the irony: I am from the south....and still live there. Interstingly enough, I have run into way more severe racist attitudes in the north than down home.
Perhaps you can point out the North's notorious history of kidnapping, raping, enslaving, assaulting and lynching of black people to us.
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Old 02-18-2011, 10:32 AM
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I very rarely hear people say that all the racist live in the south. How ever, when one thinks of racism most usually do associate it with the south do to it's history. When I read the history books, the lynchings usually take place in ___ ______, the KKK was prevalent in ___ _______, slaves were owned in ___ ______, segregation took place mainly in ___ ______. Then today we have MS looking to have a license plate for a KKK grand wizard, Barbor says what Honus quoted above... and the reputation continues. Sure racism is alive and well through out the country but the south has a reputation of fostering it and taking it to a level that exceeds the norm. You would think given their history that they would be a little more sensitive (Germany and antisemitism comes to mind) but it seems to be the opposite. Some seem to embrace their past.
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"In addition, racism which had been viewed primarily as a problem in the Southern states, burst onto the national consciousness following the Great Migration, the relocation of millions of African Americans from their roots in the Southern states to the industrial centers of the North after World War I, particularly in cities such as Boston, Chicago, and New York (Harlem). In northern cities, racial tensions exploded, most violently in Chicago, and lynchings--mob-directed hangings, usually racially motivated—increased dramatically in the 1920s. As a member of the Princeton chapter of the NAACP, Albert Einstein corresponded with W. E. B. Du Bois, and in 1946 Einstein called racism America's "worst disease"."
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"Slaves were primarily used for agricultural labor, notably in the production of cotton and tobacco. Black slavery in the Northeast was common until the early 19th century, when many Northeastern states abolished slavery. Slaves were used as a labor force in agricultural production, shipyards, docks, and as domestic servants. In both regions, only the wealthiest Americans owned slaves."
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Lest we forget the west:

"In the Pacific States, racism was primarily directed against the resident Asian immigrants. Several immigration laws discriminated against the Asians, and at different points the ethnic Chinese or other groups were banned from entering the United States.[44] Nonwhites were prohibited from testifying against whites, a prohibition extended to the Chinese by People v. Hall.[45] The Chinese were often subject to harder labor on the First Transcontinental Railroad and often performed the more dangerous tasks such as using dynamite to make pathways through the mountains.[46] The San Francisco Vigilance Movement, although ostensibly a response to crime and corruption, also systematically victimized Irish immigrants, and later this was transformed into mob violence against Chinese immigrants.[citation needed]. Anti-Chinese sentiment was also rife in early Los Angeles, culminating in a notorious 1871 riot in which a mob comprising every other nationality then resident in the city.[47] In the ensuing inquests and trials, all the perpetrators either were acquitted, or received only light punishments for lesser offenses,[48] because the testimony of Chinese witnesses was either completely inadmissible, or else considered less credible than that of others. Legal discrimination of Asian minorities was furthered with the passages of the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882, which banned the entrance of virtually all ethnic Chinese immigrants into the United States until 1943."

The Pacific and Western states were often portrayed to those on the East Coast as more liberal in terms of race relations in the 1960s and 1970s, but California legally allowed racial segregation of public facilities until the 1950s and other forms of racism were felt there as well.Over the winter spanning 1929 and 1930, anti-Filipino racism exploded in the Central Coast area surrounding Watsonville over labor tensions and general xenophobia. Filipino farm workers were terrorized for "taking jobs from whites," and for mixing with white women; in California, and many states, Filipinos were barred from marrying White Americans (a group which included Hispanic Americans). Violence was done against Filipinos, some resulting in deaths, and a Filipino establishment was even dynamited. A race war broke out in the Bay Area, with roving gangs of whites pulling Filipinos from their homes and dwellings, until the violence subsided. As a result of the riots, California's attitude changed towards importing cheaper Asian labor, ironically moving towards utilizing cheaper Mexican labor instead.[93]

A variety of laws were enacted to prevent African American migration to the Pacific Northwest. While slavery was criminalized in the Oregon Territory in 1844, a so-called "lash law" subjected blacks found guilty of violating the law to whippings—no less than 20 and no more than 39 strokes of the lash—every six months "until he or she shall quit the territory." An exclusion law, barring African Americans from entering the territory was passed in 1847, repealed in 1854, and added to the new Oregon state constitution in 1857. While African Americans have been present at some level since 1805, the demographic reverberations of these laws remain today.[94]

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Lynchings from 1882-1968. Wold you like to guess where most of them occurred?

# 1 Mississippi: 539
# 2 Georgia: 492
# 3 Texas: 352
# 4 Louisiana: 335
# 5 Alabama: 299
# 6 Florida: 257
# 7 Arkansas: 226
# 8 Tennessee: 204
# 9 South Carolina: 156
# 10 Kentucky: 142
# 11 North Carolina: 86
# 12 Virginia: 83
# 13 Missouri: 69
# 14 Oklahoma: 40
# 15 West Virginia: 28
# 16 Maryland: 27
= 17 Kansas: 19
= 17 Illinois: 19
# 19 Ohio: 16
# 20 Indiana: 14
# 21 Pennsylvania: 6
= 22 Wyoming: 5
= 22 Nebraska: 5
# 24 Minnesota: 4
= 25 Colorado: 3
= 25 North Dakota: 3
= 25 New Mexico: 3
= 28 California: 2
= 28 Iowa: 2
= 28 Utah: 2
= 28 Montana: 2
= 32 New York: 1
= 32 Michigan: 1
= 32 Delaware: 1
= 32 Washington: 1
= 32 Oregon: 1
= 32 New Jersey: 1
= 38 Arizona: 0
= 38 Idaho: 0
= 38 Vermont: 0
= 38 Maine: 0
= 38 South Dakota: 0
= 38 Nevada: 0
= 38 Wisconsin: 0
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wait, you are latino? you weren't left out either...

Americans of Latin American ancestry (often categorized as "Hispanic") come from a wide variety of racial and ethnic backgrounds. Latinos are not all distinguishable as a racial minority.

After the Mexican-American War (1846–1848), the U.S. annexed much of the current Southwestern region from Mexico. Mexicans residing in that territory found themselves subject to discrimination. It is estimated that at least 597 Mexicans were lynched between 1848 and 1928 (this is a conservative estimate due to lack of records in many reported lynchings). Mexicans were lynched at a rate of 27.4 per 100,000 of population between 1880 and 1930. This statistic is second only to that of the African American community during that period, which suffered an average of 37.1 per 100,000 population.[50] Between 1848 to 1879, Mexicans were lynched at an unprecedented rate of 473 per 100,000 of population.[51]During The Great Depression, the U.S. government sponsored a Mexican Repatriation program which was intended to encourage Mexican immigrants to voluntarily return to Mexico, however, many were forcibly removed against their will. In total, up to one million persons of Mexican ancestry were deported, approximately 60 percent those individuals were actually U.S. citizens.[
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You forgot about the Chines and Irish building the rail lines.
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You forgot about the Chines and Irish building the rail lines.
no, you just didnt see the post about the Chinese

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