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Stop Defending the DOMA
President Directs AG to Cease Defending Defense of Marriage Act
Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. sent a letter to Congress on Wednesday saying that the Justice Department will now take the position in court that the Defense of Marriage Act should be struck down as a violation of gay couples’ rights to equal protection under the law. |
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Isn't nice to see us all trying to grow up as a nation?
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It's about time.
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Who cares if it's the law of the land and that the White House and the Attorney General now say they will no longer defend the law of the land.
Some of you may be happy with this development.... just wait until there's an Administration that decides that they don't agree with a law that you favor. Let's not forget he is President Obama. Not King Obama. Even he must follow and defend the laws of our country, even if he doesn't agree with them.
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Is it an impeachable offense? Or can the administrative branch find a law unconstitutional and use it's power to overturn it? Like any other law which potentially violates civil rights.
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Is it up to the Executive Branch to do this? Because that's what it seems like they're doing.
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I believe that is a reason why there's a Justice Department and a Solicitor General.
We truly have a great system of government and laws. |
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Is this the right order of events? SHouldn't they have a Court ruling first, before they decide not to enforce it?
Would you support this type of action if it removed some law you favor? Say some future president decided to unilaterally stop allowing abortions on demand, and said he thought that was unconstitutional. Would you, likewise support that executive action?
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Is the Prez and the AG allowed to do that?
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I believe the POTUS is just saying that the WH will not spend time or money defending the law but that states are welcome to do so. He did not reverse the law or out law anything. It sounds like the courts will have to decided it's constitutionality and if it passes muster, then the WH will have to defend it.
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Yes we do, and it mostly works. My point was that it's not only the executive branch that can declare a law unconstitutional and not defend it, as the president seemingly has. I thought you'd agree with my view that there are three branches of government for several reasons, one being that we shouldn't have a king in the White House.
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A reading of the article would answer most questions. The administration does not believe that the DOMA can pass the strict scruity associated with the discrimination created by the law. The instruction to the AG is to cease arguing that the law is constitutional in legal proceedings before the federal or Supreme Court.
The administration can take a position on the constitutionality of any law being reviewed by a court. |
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Otherwise, corporations would have less rights, such as poltical contributions, than they do now. |
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I don't agree that red light cameras (wherever they are) are constitutional. Should I simply declare my position and not be subject to that law?
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