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Guilty beyond reasonable doubt by a jury of peers is good enough for me.
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PS - tell this to Cameron Todd Willingham. Oh wait, he's dead. Murdered by the state of Texas on flimy evidence. |
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What would you feel if you stood in the presence of an innocent man released from death row?
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Every 10% increase in accuracy cost xx number of dollars. Where do you stop? Well we have people who die from weed wackers, people who die from brushing their teeth, people who die from using a toaster or drying their hair. Zero is impossible. So from there its a societal choice. It'll come down to money and sentiment. But the tens of thousands of heinous cretins that delight in inflicting immense cruelty on their victims do not warrant existing. And any alternative you propose will have errors, deaths and horrors with it as well. We're humans, we're flawed, either choice has positive and negative components. I wish to value human life. Brabarous murderers have stopped being human to me and destroying them affirms my appreciation of humanity and eradication of its enemy. It is a profoundly subjective choice and I truly do not believe there is a correct reasoned answer but a gut-level expression of value and perspective. I do believe any one who is proven to have been falsely imprisoned, condemned, executed MUST be compensated. . |
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What would you feel standing in front of the family of someone who was murdered by your escaped non-executed murderer. I just said it is a personal value not a I'm-right-your-wrong. Any real or imagined scenario you present of your argument is matched by its reciprocal. I'm at ease executing large numbers of convicted murders and accepting small errors. In that case any false convictions that are due to malfeasance on the part of the state must have severe consequences. Civilization is too hard to obtain and too fragile to allow its blatant enemies to continue to exist. I seek to destroy every virulent pathogen I encounter in the bio-sphere. I do the same with homo sapiens. I know you disagree and I have no qualms with that. I'd prefer living around those that agreed with me and I suspect you feel the same. . |
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That is a very strange statement coming from a bible believing Christian who theoretically believes that Jesus died to save sinners. Are murderers unworthy of salvation?
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Oops. My bad.
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I guess playing the percentages and jury of your peers is fine so long as it is not your ass in the gas chamber convicted on bad evidence. Once it's your ass then I will be willing to bet the farm that a jury of your peers will not suffice and the extra money would be well spent.
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i think he's filling in for "mr.law and order / hang 'em high" aka sjh.
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I'm thick headed tonight. Been spending too much time worshipping Satan.
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John 18:36a - "Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world." Salvation is not of this world. . |
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At least with Satan you know what you're getting. According to sjh, Jesus is all over the damn place. I'm sure Jesus is always looking at the bottom line when deciding how much effort is a human life really worth. Its all about dollars and cents.
LOL So why are you wasting your time?
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