I'm sure I'll be getting checks in the mail soon.

http://autos.yahoo.com/news/next-corvette-will-be-powered-by-small--high-revving-turbo-v-8.html

GM has approved the use of a very European-style V-8 that will be only slightly larger than 3 liters in displacement. The engine will be an overhead-cam, rather than traditional overhead-valve design, using a dry sump oil system that’s particularly well suited to high-performance road courses rather than straight-line acceleration. The engine is expected to feature a narrow 80.5 mm bore and a long stroke, more like a Ferrari or Lamborghini powertrain than the approach used for traditional Motor City metal.

A very senior GM executive also confirmed that the new engine will be turbocharged, which will help yield a broad torque curve and maximum performance under a variety of driving conditions. The engine is expected to deliver in excess of 400 horsepower, which means a specific output in the range of 125 horsepower per liter. That’s the sort of number that would help the next-generation Vette stack up well against the likes of a Porsche 911 or Lamborghini Gallardo.

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... and BMW is considering another 6 cyl M3. Weird world.

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1043666_report-next-gen-bmw-m3-goes-six-cylinder-drops-sedan

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Lets see how that holds up in the long run first, shall we? Remember we had the LT5 engine?

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I'll not be in the market for a new M3 any time soon but I think I'd prefer the 6.

But jeez, that Corvette engine sounds like a screamer: 400 hp from a long stroke 3 liter. I'd almost prefer a more reliable 250 hp from that size engine in a car of that size, but that's me.

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400 HP a screamer? My 91 makes 410 at the wheels. They are only doing 400 at the crank? Not impressive. Probably 350 or less at the wheels. Add that to the fact that when you want to make more power it will be harder since you have a smaller motor. Also, we don't know about reliability.

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Yeah, it reeks of tempermental euro'ness. Cool idea in terms of being an engineering feat for GM.

What's the deal with the LT5 Aklim?

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I suspect that because of the limited number of LT5 units produced (Mercury Marine, BTW) it makes things quite expensive. It isn't like a LT1 or a Vortec engine in that respect. IIRC, it was hard to find aftermarket parts for it, few people could tune it properly and it didn't quite have the bang for the buck thing.

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04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow

Oh yeah, the Merc marine one. Cool idea at the time.

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Wow, is GM really planning on walking bravely into to 90s?

The re invention of the re invented.

One day these people will realize that when all is done & dusted you cant beat cubic inches !!!

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Hardly the current Vette is very 2011. Try doing a bit of research before shooting off at the hip.

Anyway I really like them, for the money its hard to beat.

This isn't really that ground breaking the first Corvette had a I6, so they could have went with a 6.

I want to see a new ZR1 come out so it can continue to whip the pricey Euro cars at 1/3 the cost. Oh you have carbon ceramic brakes on your fragile Italian car, wow that's cute the ZR1's are larger, lets see which car breaks first after its thrashed around the track a bit. Ferrari charges you how much for that car?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOrgw-XiU1E
Cause you can beat on the Chevy all day long, and it will ask for more. Also when it breaks its a Chevy, its like a few hundred bucks, your local Chevy dealer can right it.

On a Nissan GTR I think you get 3 launches before the computers and gear box are like OMG stop. What a toy.

At the track where BS walks the cars that always do well are Porsche and Corvette, with maybe a Mustang in their. The high strung tuned Japanese cars don't work so well, and the Italian stuff breaks, or people are afraid to run it because its like $10k+ if you screw up slightly.

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If you like them, fine. They are probably good for racing on the cheap, but I still think they're silly wanna-be super-cars. I certainly wouldn't want to drive one on the street. Whenever someone says a car is good "for the money," I think of someone who looks good "for her age."

Nothing wannabe about them, they just don't have the euro snobbery.

The engineering is just as good as anyone else's, GM cuts corners where they have to so the average person can afford one. But not where it counts.

They are actually really good GT cars, comfortable ride, about 30mpg on the highway, killer sound system etc. Many people drive them every day to six figure mileage.

If you want a pretty interior, more carbon fiber bodywork, and the right badge to impress your friends who hate anything American, spend the extra $250k on a 599. But don't fool yourself into thinking its that much more capable than the ZR1, slightly so yes but not $250k more.

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OK, but I really don't get it. I could see driving one on the track because they're cheap and I wouldn't feel bad about trashing one, but not on the street. I can think of about 20 more interesting cars that cost the same or less, including some early 60s vettes. I put them in the same class as vipers, which a friend of mine (who's owned both) calls his cartoon cars because of their silly styling.

Fair enough.

Ah, that explains why they got into the pickle that they were in. Tell me, what do you call it when your creditor is in a position to demand your CEO be fired and replaced with one that gets their approval? I call it FAWKED.

6 figure mileage isn't that much anymore. IIRC, there was a time where 100K was huge but most cars these days will get that without too much issue.

And that is the point, it is hard to beat especially for say a bit more, you can make that car trash anything stock ever built. As they say "It's your money but why pay more?"

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03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow