Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > General Discussions > Off-Topic Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-09-2011, 05:41 PM
sixto's Avatar
smoke gets in your eyes
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Eastern TN
Posts: 20,841
more German translation

Urkunde über den Erwerb der deutschen Staatsangehörigkeit durch Erklärung comes out to be Document over the acquisition of the German nationality by explanation. It makes sense except for the last word. Is there a more contextual translation of Erklärung than explanation?

Thanks,
Sixto
87 300D

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-09-2011, 06:21 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Utrecht, the Netherlands
Posts: 415
declaration or proclamation

Rob
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-09-2011, 07:10 PM
Yak Yak is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 1,711
Cerificate that shows the award of German citizenship by proclamation --

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staatsb%C3%BCrgerschaft

About halfway down, it's a specific method.

There are other explanations, specifically: the child of an unwed German father and non-German mother. Born after 1 Jul 1993, it's automatic; before 1 Jul 1993 you've got to do stuff to gain citizenship "durch Erklarung"

See Erforderliche Unterlagen here: http://www.duesseldorf.de/buergerinfo/33/03/31eb04.shtml

Those documents might be necessary to prove the birth so someone could gain citizenship by official proclamation.

The Consulate really isn't helping with this stuff?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-09-2011, 08:08 PM
sixto's Avatar
smoke gets in your eyes
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Eastern TN
Posts: 20,841
The OP is about the title of a document which the person I know believes satisfies the requirement of the earlier statement I requested to be translated. The document contains only the name and address of this person. No details of how this person qualified for German citizenship.

I'm not helping this person with translation. I'm trying to make sense of the situation for kicks. This is not the first time I hear that the German consulate insist on transacting business with German citizens in German even if said citizens don't speak German and have never been to Germany. Just an observation, not a criticism.

Thanks,
Sixto
87 300D
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-09-2011, 08:17 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: NYC
Posts: 6,030
Quote:
Originally Posted by sixto View Post
I'm not helping this person with translation. I'm trying to make sense of the situation for kicks. This is not the first time I hear that the German consulate insist on transacting business with German citizens in German even if said citizens don't speak German and have never been to Germany. Just an observation, not a criticism.

Thanks,
Sixto
87 300D
The documents are probably sent over to Germany for confirmation of citizenship, not processed locally. Not really surprising that they'd want them in the local official language.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-09-2011, 08:49 PM
Yak Yak is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 1,711
Quote:
Originally Posted by sixto View Post
The OP is about the title of a document which the person I know believes satisfies the requirement of the earlier statement I requested to be translated. The document contains only the name and address of this person. No details of how this person qualified for German citizenship.

I'm not helping this person with translation. I'm trying to make sense of the situation for kicks. This is not the first time I hear that the German consulate insist on transacting business with German citizens in German even if said citizens don't speak German and have never been to Germany. Just an observation, not a criticism.

Thanks,
Sixto
87 300D

The "urkunde" or certificate wouldn't have to give a reason. The "Erklarung" would basically equate to "other" as reason for citizenship, or "John Doe who lives at 123 Main St is a citizen because we said so".

The certificate may suffice for some citizenship rights or benefits but not others so the reasons may be pertinent to the Germans; so it's entirely possible they'll ask for additional information. For example in the US, the distinction between a naturalized US citizen and a native born citizen being elected president.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-09-2011, 10:14 PM
sixto's Avatar
smoke gets in your eyes
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Eastern TN
Posts: 20,841
The situation revolves around obtaining a German passport for a child born in the US to a mother with a German passport and a business visa allowing her to be in the US. Canadian father.

Sixto
87 300D
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-10-2011, 11:05 AM
LaRondo's Avatar
Rondissimo
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: West Coast
Posts: 162
I assume, they want to know how the mother became German citizen.

She should have some sort of document, aka birth certificate, or else.

It is part of being German, to speak, read and write German, it's expected, not only for the convenience of officials.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-10-2011, 01:43 PM
sixto's Avatar
smoke gets in your eyes
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Eastern TN
Posts: 20,841
I'm surprised it's relevant. There must me ways of becoming a German citizen that doesn't qualify your children to inherit citizenship? I heard the children of a US citizen who hasn't lived one year continuously in the US cannot automatically pass citizenship to his/her children. I don't know if that holds for folks in the government and military.

Americans speaking English... now there's a can of worms.

Sixto
87 300D

Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:24 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page