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Old 08-17-2011, 09:56 AM
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20% of kids impoverished - yeah right

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Study: 1 in 5 American children lives in poverty

Starting our day with the daily whine from the MSM. Good ole MSNBC leads the way.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44171347/ns/today-today_news/t/study-american-children-lives-poverty/

First snippet sums it up nicely --

Karla Washington worries how she will afford new school uniforms for her five-year-old daughter.
Washington, an undergraduate student, earns less than $11,000 a year from a part-time university job. The salary must cover food, rent, health care, child care and the occasional splurge on a Blue's Clues item for her only child.
"My biggest fear is not providing my daughter with everything that she needs to be a balanced child, to be independent, to be safe, to feel like she is of value," said Washington, 41.


What's a single 41 year-old women with extremely limited job skills doing trying to raise a family.

Some time in the past 20+ years she needed to look in the mirror and say if I want to accomplish this in my live I need to do some things different.

She didn't make wise choices and now I get to cry while eating my cereal.

Actions/decisions have consequences.

Welcome to life.

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I guess she should have found a man to submit to.
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Old 08-17-2011, 10:06 AM
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I guess she should have found a man to submit to.
She clearly needed to submit to a number of things, discipline, education, rigor, delayed gratfication, embracing wisdom & maturity, etc.

We raise 3 generation of people of people living 25+ years as adolescence who then want others to solve their problems.

The obsessive preoccupation with self, its aggrandizement and appetites is NOT the sign of adulthood, which is in itself a submission, a subsuming of one aspect of self to develop another aspect of self.

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What's a single 41 year-old women with extremely limited job skills doing trying to raise a family.

Some time in the past 20+ years she needed to look in the mirror and say if I want to accomplish this in my live I need to do that.

She did n't make wise choices and now I get to cry while eating my cereal.

Actions/decisions have consequences.

Welcome to life.

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You should call her up and tell her that big man. Better yet, show in person and explain it face to face. While you're at it, maybe you could give her a lesson on how Jesus would deal with her predicament. For a supposed Christian you're awfully quick to pass judgement on anyone and everyone.
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You should call her up and tell her that big man. Better yet, show in person and explain it face to face. While you're at it, maybe you could give her a lesson on how Jesus would deal with her predicament. For a supposed Christian you're awfully quick to pass judgement on anyone and everyone.
I'm no christian, but what he said is entirely correct. It has to do with responsibility which was flushed down the toilet decades ago in this society.

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She clearly needed to submit to a number of things, discipline, education, rigor, delayed gratfication, embracing wisdom & maturity, , abortion.

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I bet the child has brand new nike runners & an Iphone.
People live within their means even if they have to beg, borrow & steal to do so. There is a big difference between wants & needs !!!
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I'd rather look at her history. Figure out what really caused the problems. Probably a bunch of things rolled together...some her fault , some not. And then see if we can't do something to improve her lot- which will also save us money. A couple of years in evening classes might really turn things around.
Then try to fix the things that went wrong in her time. Not necessarily just throw money at this or that, but actually fix things. I never cease to be amazed at the kids coming out of elementary school that really can't read, and we expect them to do well in middle and high school. Probably would not hurt to make some schools less of a war zone.
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I'm no christian, but what he said is entirely correct. It has to do with responsibility which was flushed down the toilet decades ago in this society.

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No disagreement from me. The issue is the target--a single mother. It could easily have been argued that the culprit in this case is the father. Here's a single mother taking responsibility, going to school and trying to raise the value of her labor. Where is the father? Why isn't he raising the child while the mother is going to school? Instead sjh decides to deride the mother who appears to be doing everything a person should do to improve their lives and care for her children.
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No disagreement from me. The issue is the target--a single mother. It could easily have been argued that the culprit in this case is the father. Here's a single mother taking responsibility, going to school and trying to raise the value of her labor. Where is the father? Why isn't he raising the child while the mother is going to school? Instead sjh decides to deride the mother who appears to be doing everything a person should do to improve their lives and care for her children.
That is true. But the nature and whereabouts of the father has a lot to do with the whole responsiblility thing in the first place. Was she raped? Or simply fukkin around? Not enough facts about her past to make a definitive judgement. But given her age, status, and problems good choices do not appear to have been high on her list in the past.

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No disagreement from me. The issue is the target--a single mother. It could easily have been argued that the culprit in this case is the father. Here's a single mother taking responsibility, going to school and trying to raise the value of her labor. Where is the father? Why isn't he raising the child while the mother is going to school? Instead sjh decides to deride the mother who appears to be doing everything a person should do to improve their lives and care for her children.
Ah, but she started too late! She should have been in undergraduate school back in her late teens, going to Vassar. Her parents should have been Buick-driving attorneys and her suburban house should have had a white picket fence. Very irresponsible of her for not being in that type of situation, and many on this thread clearly haven't forgotten that we all start out equal in life, with identical opportunities, especially minority women.
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Old 08-17-2011, 10:57 AM
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I'm no christian, but what he said is entirely correct. It has to do with responsibility which was flushed down the toilet decades ago in this society.

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Right.

This is not a Christian thing.

It's an adult thing.

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Old 08-17-2011, 10:58 AM
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?????
did you insert and highlight a word in my quote that I did not say?

nah, couldn't have.

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I guess she should have found a man to submit to.
You do know that means to not submit into a form of domestic slavery but to submit to one another. treat each other as equals and as you expect to be treated. Give your best and do your best....
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No disagreement from me. The issue is the target--a single mother. It could easily have been argued that the culprit in this case is the father. Here's a single mother taking responsibility, going to school and trying to raise the value of her labor. Where is the father? Why isn't he raising the child while the mother is going to school? Instead sjh decides to deride the mother who appears to be doing everything a person should do to improve their lives and care for her children.
MSNBC put her up as their poster-child - not me

It could have been any sex, any age, any color, any belief-system, etc

they just put up what they believed would be most sympathetic

an example of objective, fact-based, well-reasoned discourse from our media

don't gore me because I linked to their emotional dribble .

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