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Old 09-19-2011, 03:35 PM
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That is the point. Why is it bad for GOP to do it and not DEM?
It is equally bad when either party does it. Since I favor democrats over republicans, I don't enjoy pointing out when the democrats do stupid things. I am also more anti-GOP than I am pro-democrat. We need the democrats to do well because the GOP has become such a malevolent, anti-American force. None of that excuses bad behavior by democrats. That's the part you made up.

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Yep, there's plenty of garbage on both sides of the aisle.
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Old 09-19-2011, 03:43 PM
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It is equally bad when either party does it. Since I favor democrats over republicans, I don't enjoy pointing out when the democrats do stupid things. I am also more anti-GOP than I am pro-democrat. We need the democrats to do well because the GOP has become such a malevolent, anti-American force.

None of that excuses bad behavior by democrats. That's the part you made up.
Therein lies the problem doesn't it? I make excuses or ignore my side doing bad and rail on the other side.

I can't make up what you said. See what you yourself stated. As I said, as long as you protect the Dems and sweep it under the rug when they do wrong, what is their incentive to do better? There only 2 major parties and they will have your vote so WGAS? Same with the other side. They know the GOP supporters will do as you do, sweep GOP mistakes under the rug and rain on the Dems so they don't have to improve. As a member of the GOP, I know I cannot win your support so why try? As a DEM, I know I can never lose your support so why bother?
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Yep, there's plenty of garbage on both sides of the aisle.
Only because there is no incentive to do better. Explain the incentive when people like Honus will never support the GOP and will support the DEM party. They know they have his vote and he won't budge so what else is there? They cannot count on a vote from a GOP supporter no matter what they do so what is the point?

Will a GOP fan ever support a DEM party member? Not likely. Why bother. Will a DEM fan ever support a GOP member? Not likely. Why bother. As long as you two morons keep fighting, whatever flag I fly (as long as it suits me and I will change when the wind changes direction), I am not motivated to improve. I just have to keep my DEM or GOP base happy and angry at the other side.
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You meant to say 20 January 2009, I assume.
Correct, I did mean to say 2009.
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Therein lies the problem doesn't it? I make excuses or ignore my side doing bad and rail on the other side.

I can't make up what you said. See what you yourself stated. As I said, as long as you protect the Dems and sweep it under the rug when they do wrong, what is their incentive to do better? There only 2 major parties and they will have your vote so WGAS? Same with the other side. They know the GOP supporters will do as you do, sweep GOP mistakes under the rug and rain on the Dems so they don't have to improve. As a member of the GOP, I know I cannot win your support so why try? As a DEM, I know I can never lose your support so why bother?
Who said anything about sweeping anything under the rug? You're making stuff up.

FWIW, I have voted GOP a few times.
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Old 09-19-2011, 03:54 PM
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Who said anything about sweeping anything under the rug? You're making stuff up.

FWIW, I have voted GOP a few times.
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Since I favor democrats over republicans, I don't enjoy pointing out when the democrats do stupid things.
And I voted Obama for my first election voting so there we are.
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Who said anything about sweeping anything under the rug? You're making stuff up.

FWIW, I have voted GOP a few times.
FWIW, sounds suspiciously like the old "I have friends who are black, gay, muslim, etc.) disclaimer!
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FWIW, sounds suspiciously like the old "I have friends who are black, gay, muslim, etc.) disclaimer!
I have a few gay friends, 1 black but no muslim and no chinese so I guess I am racist against chinese.
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FWIW, sounds suspiciously like the old "I have friends who are black, gay, muslim, etc.) disclaimer!
It does sort of sound like that, except you may recall that I said that I favor democrats over republicans. I would not have said that about a race or religion. So, the comparison is not apt, or at least I hope it isn't.

And, BTW, the line, "I have friends who are black, gay, muslim, etc." is intended to deflect charges of prejudice against those groups. I freely admit my prejudice against republicans. If a republican proves his or her bona fides, then I am OK with them - Frank Wolf, John Warner, and a few local republicans come to mind - but if I hear a politician speak and all I know is that he or she has an "R" after his name, I am deeply skeptical, more so than with politicians who don't have an "R" after their names..

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Old 09-19-2011, 04:14 PM
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It does sort of sound like that, except you may recall that I said that I favor democrats over republicans. I would not have said that about a race or religion. So, the comparison is not apt, or at least I hope it isn't.
Nothing wrong with liking one side or the other. However, the fact is you stated you probably would let a DEM skate on a mistake while hounding a REP to the ground shows as much inconsistency as you keep pointing out in the GOP member of the committee, doesn't it? He has as much of a political axe to grind as do you. So why is it bad for him and not you? Inconsistency much?
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...you stated you probably would let a DEM skate...
You are still making stuff up. I never said any such thing.
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Make one wonder why venture capitalists didn't fund the company.
According to what I've read, about 2/3rds of the backing was from venture capitalists.

Do you know what their tech angle was and why it appeared promising? A lot of this stuff is in the neophyte stage. A number of companies failed badly some years back in producing reliable lithium batteries. Oddly enough, some sort of process was eventually arrived at that worked.
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According to what I've read, about 2/3rds of the backing was from venture capitalists...
Implying that it was almost a good idea.
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You are still making stuff up. I never said any such thing.
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Since I favor democrats over republicans, I don't enjoy pointing out when the democrats do stupid things.
What, does it mean, in your opinion?

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