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Obama sactioned his execution.
The Yemeni Government sanctioned his execution. High value target with a bounty on his head. 'Dead or Alive'. If he did not want to get killed..he could have turned himself in. He knew he had a very short shelf life..played the game and lost..and payed the ultimate price. His successor will meet the same end. This guy had to go I am glad that he is gone.
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In fact, the report i read said that he directly ordered it.
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The Yemeni Government has been problematic. They recently released a whole bunch of AQAP operatives, which I am sure caused U.S. counter-terrorism officials hours of teeth-knashing fits. But then someone from the U.S got smart and slid them $150 million USD, and they changed their tune.
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I think uniformed soldiers are protected by the Geneva Conventions. So if captured I suspect he would be held as a lawful enemy combatant, but I don't know. That's an interesting question. If in enemy uniform then he's a fair target. A uniform identifies combatant status. I believe that in the past a captured American in enemy uniform was subject to constitutional trial as a spy. Not sure. I guess my major beef is the concept of targeted killing. I do not understand why there is some distinction between assassination and targeted killing. I can't put my finger on why it makes me uncomfortable. From a logical POV we might say that targeting enemy gov officials would subject our own to similar targeting. Finally, I have a problem with killing citizens without due process of law. I have no problem mowing-down foreign combatants. I want a higher standard for our own citizens. Else, what's to stop some president from okaying the killing of a political opponent as a threat to state security? |
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Obama would absolutely crap in his pants if he had to do anything deadfully stressful.[/QUOTE]
I think you may overlook the fact that O is the biggest target in the world for nut jobs. I imagine he has intestinal fortitude which if you saw first hand would impress you. ![]()
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![]() Whatever you think Tom. You are correct though, I would be GREATLY surprised if he proved such a thing. All Presidents have people gunning for them, but they also have the Secret Service to hide behind. Larry
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Then perhaps you can get your head around why the decision was made to eliminate these guys.
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That's exactly where I don't want it to go. Despots have used that argument for millennia. It's the old "external threat" ploy. We usually fall for it.
That's why I am so uncomfortable with the military or CIA targeting an American citizen for execution without trial. It makes me very uncomfortable as a precedent. Put another way, would you want Richard Nixon to have the power to designate American citizens for execution without some sort of judicial review? If we give the power to a president who is probably a good guy, rest assured it will be in the hands of a subsequent president who is not. |
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Anwar al-Awlaki: al Qaeda's rock star no more – CNN Security Clearance - CNN.com Blogs Perhaps the part about "killing Americans" is of interest: Quote:
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Whatever you think Tom. You are correct though, I would be GREATLY surprised if he proved such a thing. All Presidents have people gunning for them, but they also have the Secret Service to hide behind. Larry[/QUOTE] I know you don't think much of this president and I don't think much of GW Bush or RR. But I think it takes a lot of guts to want to be president and I think most people in that office have some real courage. GHW Bush had actual combat experience so I think he has it without arguement. Reagan had no combat experience and he took a bullet for all of us. I am no admirer of Reagan's politics but I think in that circumstance he had real guts putting up the front he did.
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GHW Bush had actual combat experience so I think he has it without arguement. Reagan had no combat experience and he took a bullet for all of us. I am no admirer of Reagan's politics but I think in that circumstance he had real guts putting up the front he did.[/QUOTE] And I said I thought it would IMPRESS you not surprise you. Please quote me correctly if you choose to quote me. ![]()
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I haven't heard anyone defend Al-Awlaki. If Obama ordered an illegal attack, then maybe it is appropriate to attack him. It is a question worth asking.
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If the US military did this without direction or command from the highest levels, including the Commander in Chief, then perhaps we have a problem with the military? Wouldn't you agree, Mr. Bible? A proper chain of command is very important in these "life and death" situations, no?
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![]() I stand corrected on the misquote. I will DEFINITELY be surprised if I am ever impressed by anything that he does. I didn't think much of GW either. Ronald Reagan was the last true leader we have seen. You didn't mention Slick Willy in your critique.
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