HireRight...anyone have dealings with them before? - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

jplinville · #1 11-17-2011, 05:14 PM

I've been offered employment with a company directly tied to the oil and gas industry here in western PA, and I've accepted. HireRight was contracted to do a background check on me. They required employment history spanning my entire 26 years in the trade, which I freely gave to them...I have a two different resumes, one long and one short.

Anyway, this company has now asked for tax information to confirm employment for companies that are no longer operating. I explained to them that due to a previous housefire, that I no longer hold copies of these documents, and that my previous accountant in Ohio would have to have a week or two to generate copies for me. Now, I understand that there are security concerns in the gas and oil industry, but I never went under a magnifying glass this intense when I worked in Aerospace doing DoD work when I had to have government clearance.

Does anyone here have any experience with them? Are they always this intense or is it only because of the industry I'll be working in?

The Clk Man · #2 11-17-2011, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jplinville

I've been offered employment with a company directly tied to the oil and gas industry here in western PA, and I've accepted. HireRight was contracted to do a background check on me. They required employment history spanning my entire 26 years in the trade, which I freely gave to them...I have a two different resumes, one long and one short.

Anyway, this company has now asked for tax information to confirm employment for companies that are no longer operating. I explained to them that due to a previous housefire, that I no longer hold copies of these documents, and that my previous accountant in Ohio would have to have a week or two to generate copies for me. Now, I understand that there are security concerns in the gas and oil industry, but I never went under a magnifying glass this intense when I worked in Aerospace doing DoD work when I had to have government clearance.

Does anyone here have any experience with them? Are they always this intense or is it only because of the industry I'll be working in?

I don't understand why they would need your "private" tax papers. Proof of employment should be enough.

pj67coll · #3 11-17-2011, 05:40 PM

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I don't understand why they would need your "private" tax papers.

Is that even legal?

- Peter.

jplinville · #4 11-17-2011, 05:52 PM

They have requested either 1099 forms or W-2 forms. I'm unsure of the legality of their request.

spdrun · #5 11-17-2011, 06:43 PM

The IRS only keeps records back a certain # of years, which the company can pull if they have your permission -- before that, it's easy enough to forge 1099's/W-2s or copies thereof

And yes, I'm advocating borderline activity, so shoot me.

BTW - going back 26 years is pretty absurd short of a government security clearance check.

The Clk Man · #6 11-17-2011, 06:56 PM

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They have requested either 1099 forms or W-2 forms. I'm unsure of the legality of their request.

Hey jp, I'm a tool maker like you, I needed a chisel today so I found an old socket extension and ground the end until it was sharp. I'm so proud of myself.

jplinville · #7 11-17-2011, 07:30 PM

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Hey jp, I'm a tool maker like you, I needed a chisel today so I found an old socket extension and ground the end until it was sharp. I'm so proud of myself.

Umm...No.

Industrious, perhaps, but far from a tool maker.

The Clk Man · #8 11-17-2011, 07:35 PM

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Umm...No.

Industrious, perhaps, but far from a tool maker.

AAhhh man.

barry123400 · #9 11-17-2011, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jplinville

I've been offered employment with a company directly tied to the oil and gas industry here in western PA, and I've accepted. HireRight was contracted to do a background check on me. They required employment history spanning my entire 26 years in the trade, which I freely gave to them...I have a two different resumes, one long and one short.

Anyway, this company has now asked for tax information to confirm employment for companies that are no longer operating. I explained to them that due to a previous housefire, that I no longer hold copies of these documents, and that my previous accountant in Ohio would have to have a week or two to generate copies for me. Now, I understand that there are security concerns in the gas and oil industry, but I never went under a magnifying glass this intense when I worked in Aerospace doing DoD work when I had to have government clearance.

Does anyone here have any experience with them? Are they always this intense or is it only because of the industry I'll be working in?

This is fairly new in my world too. Reciently a friend was asked to prove past employment . I thought it a little strange. Perhaps it is a somewhat new approach.

Personally I find it a little intrusive. There should be another way they can establish this by their own methods. It also sounds like a way to transfer their work load and responsibilities for function to you.

Botnst · #10 11-17-2011, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jplinville

I've been offered employment with a company directly tied to the oil and gas industry here in western PA, and I've accepted. HireRight was contracted to do a background check on me. They required employment history spanning my entire 26 years in the trade, which I freely gave to them...I have a two different resumes, one long and one short.

Anyway, this company has now asked for tax information to confirm employment for companies that are no longer operating. I explained to them that due to a previous housefire, that I no longer hold copies of these documents, and that my previous accountant in Ohio would have to have a week or two to generate copies for me. Now, I understand that there are security concerns in the gas and oil industry, but I never went under a magnifying glass this intense when I worked in Aerospace doing DoD work when I had to have government clearance.

Does anyone here have any experience with them? Are they always this intense or is it only because of the industry I'll be working in?

It depends on what type of work you do. Some types of information are extremely sensitive -- literally billions of bucks on the line. Can you be trusted with that kind of information? Prove it.

Also, even the lowest level gov security clearance now goes back 12 years. If you want TS-SCI and above it's your whole life. They key criterion is this: Do not evade the truth in any way. They are looking for people that cannot be trusted to tell the truth, not for whether you burned a doobie.

jplinville · #11 11-17-2011, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by barry123400

This is fairly new in my world too. Reciently a friend was asked to prove past employment . I thought it a little strange. Perhaps it is a somewhat new approach.

Personally I find it a little intrusive. There should be another way they can establish this by their own methods. It also sounds like a way to transfer their work load and responsibilities for function to you.

I'm wondering if it's because of the rather large number of people that have been out of work for a year or more...

I told them that it would take a week or longer to get the documents from my accountant, because they are generally stored off site in a storage facility, and would need to be retrieved from out of state.

I called the prospective employer about the situation, and they didn't seem too concerned, as they understand about past places of employment shuttering their doors.

We'll see what happens.

jplinville · #12 11-17-2011, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

It depends on what type of work you do. Some types of information are extremely sensitive -- literally billions of bucks on the line. Can you be trusted with that kind of information? Prove it.

Also, even the lowest level gov security clearance now goes back 12 years. If you want TS-SCI and above it's your whole life. They key criterion is this: Do not evade the truth in any way. They are looking for people that cannot be trusted to tell the truth, not for whether you burned a doobie.

When I qualified for clearance in UT, it was for Aerospace/DoD work. That was 3 years ago. The level of scrutiny didn't seem as intense as the current background check.

I'm confident that they'll find I'm truthful on my resume...the only BS is during the interview. LOL

Botnst · #13 11-17-2011, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jplinville

When I qualified for clearance in UT, it was for Aerospace/DoD work. That was 3 years ago. The level of scrutiny didn't seem as intense as the current background check.

I'm confident that they'll find I'm truthful on my resume...the only BS is during the interview. LOL

When I worked in the oil industry the major test for employment was fogging a mirror. I passed! I have friends who tell me that I wouldn't recognize the place compared to when I worked there. I can only accept that. In my day folks had bumper stickers that said, "Tell my momma I'm a piano player in a whore-house, I don't want her to know I work in the oil patch." It was a surreal lifestyle. I understand that it is still wide-open to self-starting ambitious folks with a lot of energy. I can admit that they sucked that from me like a vampire on a hot babe. But it sure felt GOOD!