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Why won'tmy ovenwork during a power outage, while stove top will?
Hello all,
During a recent extended power outage, we had hot water, and a stove top, but no oven. The natural gas fired hot water heater has a thermo couple / gas valve,and as long as the pilot is lit, the burner is ready to go. The electronic ignitors will not fire on the stove top, but a match will get the burners going. I was not able to find a way to get the oven lit. I understand you don't know my oven, but generally speaking, what am I missing? -Paul T |
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My guess is there is a thermocouple in the oven gas supply that is initially heated by electricity when the oven is turned on. So no power, no gas.
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Electric ignitor on the oven that heats a thermocouple. You might be able to get it going by using a barbecue lighter to heat up the thermocouple and release the gas. But maybe the ignitor needs to be electrically activated the whole time the gas is being released. That's the downside of a gas appliance that really isn't 100% a gas appliance. The Non-Electric company would supply you with a gas stove that needs no electricity at all.
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The gas valve opens when it sees a specific resistance. It really doesn't know if the ignitor is working or not. Would really piss me off when a perfectly functioning ignitor would have to be replaced because it deteriorated very slightly and the resistance was, apparently, less than the gas valve wanted to see............... I recently replaced the ignitor on the dryer. This device had some type of optical device that viewed the temperature of the ignitor coil and allowed the gas valve to open. Quite different from the stove and much more reliable. |
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Isn't the ignitor system in a gas oven there to stop desperate people from sticking their heads in there and turning the gas on?
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Well yes or not getting it lit when you think you did and having an accidental explosion.
I am old enough to have seen one by my first MIL who was trying to light the oven and got a big bubble of gas in there then went back in with a match or lighter and blew a nice orange ball of burning gas out the front door and singed off her facial hair and so forth. Another minute of gas blowing first would have been really ugly.
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I know this since I fixed my oven few years ago.
The igniter for the oven is like a glow plug, it is always on when the oven is on. This glow plug is wired in series with the oven gas valve (seperate than the top burners), safety feature. If the glow plug blows (open cuircuit) then the gas valve does not open. During electric outage, there is no power to turn on the glow much less the oven gas vlave.
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...when we first moved to Holland we bought a second hand gas oven that had no (working?) safety feature on it. It made me pretty nervous there was always a smell of gas in the kitchen. Landlords here have it easy - no requirement for either electrical or gas safety check. (Small print - that was the case. It might not be now - we've been out of rented for years and years now)
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What do you mean..........you don't have a pilot light.........???? |
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Thanks for the input
Thanks for the input. It sounds like the oven is not going to work without power. Not the end of the world. We do have water, and hot water, and we can cook. I just bgt the 2000 watt Honda suitcase generator and will use that to keep the heat going so the pipes don't freeze when the power goes out in February.
THANKS AGAIN,=pAUL t |
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I find the idea of an MIL with facial hair quite funny. I can't imagine it being much uglier.
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