So i was interested in buying a car.. 93, 400e to be exact..
from craigslist.. the thing is
the car looks clean in and out in the pics and car is low mi, only 118,000
but the catch is the guy doesn't have a pink slip.. (and he bought it from a charity auction)[says he buys and sells cars for a living, but he drives the car hes trying to sell?]
he says he has bill of sale and a paper saying he doesn't need the pink to sell
so to make sure i said lets do the deal at the dmv..
to make sure all the paperwork is good and i'll get the pink slip in the mail..

so i ran a vin check on the car.. and the thing is it says last reported mileage 180K at 2010

so is this guy bull****ting or did something get messed up and or does he have a changed odochanged? (although it isn't reported and says the car is good)
is there any way to check if the odometer is changed?

i was going to buy it thursday

Why are you asking the question on here?

Is it not obvious to you what has transpired here? I'm sure you're not that stupid.

Do you wish for us to deny the obvious fraud so you can buy the vehicle despite it?

never seen a fraud scenario, but was hoping i finally sound something descent but i was in denial.. and yeah your right just wanted confirmation from someone other than myself..

Sounds like a classic California curb stoner.

There's no excuse for not having a title present.

If he does it for a living, he should be a licensed, bonded dealer. If not, it a huge no-no in California. They recently stiffened up fines for curb stoning there.

Unless its a licensed dealer never buy a car without the title present and in the sellers name. Many dealerships finance their inventory and don't get the titles until they pay that particular vehicle off. This is common practice.

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1985 500SL Euro w/ AMG bits 130k
1984 300SD Turbodiesel 192k
1980 240D Stick China 188k
2001 CLK55 AMG 101k
2007 S600 Biturbo 149k Overheated Project, IT'S ALIVE!!!

This really pisses me off. The DB's don't have the title, and yet, they demand you to pay the full amount of the sale price. You pay, and you DO NOT own the vehicle.

Who, in their right mind, would proceed with such a transaction? You have purchased NOTHING for all of your cash. You are relying on the DB to send you the title.

WTF is wrong with this picture?

Yes.

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good thing i checked the VIN.. i swear i was that close to buying it.. i mean i didn't pay for the VIN check either thank god i did though..

its a good thing i did all my research and backround checks to the last bit..

i thought it was sketch so i said lets do it at the dmv

1993 MERCEDES BENZ 400E SUPER CLEAN

here it is btw..

and what happens to the car's VIN since it seems to have no problems till 2010, once someone buys it and registers it is he screwed?

theres the post

and heres the vin report
in case people are wondering

Below are the historical events for this vehicle listed in chronological order. Any discrepancies will be in bold text.
Report Run Date 2012-01-31 21:13:51.663 EST
Vehicle: 1993 Mercedes-Benz E Class 400E (WDBEA34E3PB972036)
Event date Location Odometer reading Data Source Details
02/05/1996 CA 36,966 Motor Vehicle Dept. ODOMETER READING FROM DMV
04/15/1996 SAN JOSE, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Lien Reported)
06/11/1996 SAN JOSE, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
08/27/1997 CA 49,158 State Agency PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION
05/12/1999 CA 66,957 State Agency PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION
01/25/2000 CA 74,462 State Agency PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION
02/15/2000 CA 74,534 Motor Vehicle Dept. ODOMETER READING FROM DMV
02/15/2000 SAN RAFAEL, CA Independent Source VEHICLE IN DEALER INVENTORY
04/13/2000 MILL VALLEY, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Lien Reported)
09/07/2001 CA 92,761 State Agency EMISSION INSPECTION
05/16/2002 CA 93,000 Motor Vehicle Dept. ODOMETER READING FROM DMV
REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
05/26/2002 MENLO PARK, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE
05/12/2003 CA 97,130 State Agency PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION
09/11/2003 WALNUT CREEK, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
09/23/2003 WALNUT CREEK, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE
09/16/2004 CA 107,788 State Agency FAILED EMISSION INSPECTION
10/21/2004 CA 109,457 State Agency PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION
11/11/2004 WALNUT CREEK, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE
11/11/2004 WALNUT CREEK, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
05/09/2006 CA 139,766 State Agency PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION
06/02/2007 WALNUT CREEK, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
09/22/2009 CA 177,326 State Agency FAILED EMISSION INSPECTION
09/24/2009 CA 177,328 State Agency PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION
09/25/2009 POMONA, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
10/07/2009 POMONA, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE
10/20/2009 POMONA, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
10/30/2009 POMONA, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE
03/10/2010 POMONA, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

I don't know many who don't finance their inventory this way. I'm the exception to the rule, but it does limit me as I don't have the purchasing power.

He should have gotten the title himself if its really that easy and put it in his own name.

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1985 500SL Euro w/ AMG bits 130k
1984 300SD Turbodiesel 192k
1980 240D Stick China 188k
2001 CLK55 AMG 101k
2007 S600 Biturbo 149k Overheated Project, IT'S ALIVE!!!

actually he told me he bought the car last week, and it takes a month for the title to come

I suspect someone shaves 100K from the odo. It should be 218K as it was 177K back in 09. It is easily done with old MBZ.

If you like the car, it smogs OK and the title can be transferred at the DMV legally then just factor in the car is 218K and take $1K off price.

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ha i told him "suddenly i'm not interested in your car. sorry" a while ago like i said
when i told him his vin doesn't match he was just like
IDK but it just turned 118k today!

For me it's very simple. No title=no sale.

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83 300D Turbo with manual conversion, early W126 vented front rotors and H4 headlights 400,xxx miles
08 Suzuki GSX-R600 M4 Slip-on 22,xxx miles
88 Jaguar XJS V12 94,xxx miles. Work in progress.

watch this.....this is a scam too.....


Pawn Stars - Porsche Engine Mechanic Dispute - YouTube


there was a REASON why it was taken out of the car to begin with. This dude picked it up in the junkyard and tries to sell it. This was the problematic Porsche engine.

eeeesssss ahhhh guuuuddd aynjin maaaanggggg

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1987 190d 2.5Turbo

You should have him arrested.

hahaha the guy was like "i'm going to kick your assss" so many times