The head of the "Birther" movement is some clown named Joesph Farah, who runs a far-out conspiracy site for crackpots called "World Net Daily", commonly referred to as "World Nut Daily". Sean Hannity made a big mistake last night by inviting this Crackpot-in-Chief onto his show, because Farah immediately screwed the GOP by claiming that Marco Rubio, the GOP Latino Anointed One, is not, by his crackpot theory, a "natural born citizen", and is thus, according to Bither Crackpotism, ineligible to run for VP:

Farah on Fox TV: Rubio not a natural-born citizen

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/hannity/

Farah claims in order to be a US citizen, you have to have been born of US-born parents, which makes about four past presidents ineligible for office, and of course, makes millions of ordinary US citizens, well, not citizens. I suppose they all need to apply for passports to make this nut happy. What he should do is read this simple court decision, made in the years after the passage of the 14th Amendment, which clearly says that you become a citizen as long as you are "naturally born" here. The 14th, or anywhere else in the COTUS for that matter, makes no mention of the status of one's parents, affirmed here:

United States v. Wong Kim Ark - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The "Birthers" are now pushing this crackpot theory because they now know they have lost the battle in their attempt to prove Obama was not born here, so they have now switched "Birtherism" to the assertion that the circumstances of Obama's birth is what makes him ineligible, that even tho his mom was a US citizen, citizenship is, according to these nuts, somehow magically transmitted via the father. So I suppose, any US girl who has a dalliance with a Greek Sailor that results in an unfortunate birth, needs to run down to the passport office and get a visa for little Guido, which the little tyke must hold in his tiny little hand as he slides down the birth canal, or face deportation on arrival for "illegal entry into the US". Apparently Senator Rubio did not have one when he disembarked from his mom's vagina, even tho it was pointed at downtown Miami at the time. Farah gave Hannity notice that if Rubio gets nominated as the GOP VP candidate, something the GOP hungers for in the face of their total loss of the Latino vote due to the constant stream of anti-Hispanic race-baiting, hate mongering and paranoia that emanates from their Talk Radio Propaganda Machine, that Farah will lead "The Birthers" in another windmill attack, this time against their own candidate. Can the GOP race get any weirder? Gingrich, the Moon is calling! Can people born on the Moon run for prez? Is Newt in trouble?

Do the "US parents" have to be born here as well? What about their parents? I can't see how being born here launders one of their undesirable alien ancestry. It would appear that the only true Americans are those of American Indian background. Perhaps Rubio should fade away, and a nice man of Navaho descent should run for VP...

Since humans didn't evolve in NOrth America you're eventually going to get back to some people who first came here whose parents weren't born here.

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Interuterine visas are the answer. But I'm still worried about the Moon Colony babies. They certainly sound like aliens.

"Farah claims in order to be a US citizen, you have to have been born of US-born parents."

That is a lie, for it is misrepresentation by subtle omission. You have left out the critical phrase "natural born" --in order to be a _natural born_ US citizen...which is the specific constitutional requirement for a President...you must be either born of parents who are themselves U.S. citizens, as for example John McCain, who was born to U.S. military parents while stationed in Panama...or you must be born in the US, as was the case in the Supreme Court decision you reference, as well as the hundreds of thousands of present-day "anchor babies."

Barack Obama a.k.a. Barry Soetero's father was indisputably a British subject, not a U.S. citizen. And, according to the taped verbal testimony of his grandmother, he was born in Kenya.

Therefore he meets neither the "both parents" test nor the "born on US soil" test. Therefore he is not, and never can be, a "natural born" citizen. This lack of "natural born" status absolutely disqualifies him from eligibility to hold the office of President.

It is in fact questionable whether he is a US citizen at all. He indisputably travelled to Pakistan in 1981, and indisputably was schooled in Indonesia. The former was prohibited at the time to US citizens, the latter requires Indonesian citizenship, and Indonesia did not at the time allow dual citizenship. So at the time of his schooling he had presumably turned in, given up, thrown away any US citizenship he ever may have had or claimed.

Therefore, at best, he has become since that time a "naturalized" and not "natural born" US citizen. However, there is no proof that he ever actually underwent even the process to naturalize. His Occidental College records indicate that he was there under a foreign student scholarship.

In promotion of his claim to have been born on US soil, there was posted on the White House website, an alleged long-form birth certificate, allegedly indicating he was born in Hawaii. But it is indisputably a Photoshop or Illustrator assemblage, an obvious forgery, not a scan of a genuine document.

To misrepresent a forgery as an official document is a felony, under (Hawaiian) state law, therefore an impeachable offense.

It will be interesting to see what develops out of the current Georgia case, a ruling in which is expected this coming weekend. A judge has commanded Obama to produce his original long-form birth certificate, in order to qualify for the Georgia primary ballot. So far, Obama has ignored the order.

Perhaps you can show us just where in the COTUS it says what you claim? I can find the words "parents" no where.... All the stuff you say about "British Subjects" etc, did you even read this:?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Wong_Kim_Ark

You give us a bunch of half-baked, crackpot legal theories, and I am posting what the Supreme Court decided:
Otherwise, your post is a mishmash of half-baked crap any one who reads Snopes knows is a load of horse manure. Let's just start with your "The former [travel to Pakistan]" was prohibited to US citizens: you want to talk about lies? How about that WHOPPER that you want US to believe!:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/passport.asp

And the Obama's "grandmother" thing, a Birther load of crap where they chop off an interview at the point of a mis-translation, and leave out the part where it is corrected? Talk about lies!:

http://www.salon.com/2009/07/24/liddy/

And your "Occidental College" thing? Another lie:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/occidental.asp

That's why you Birthers look like fools, you spew a bunch of unsubstantiated crap, because you tend to believe unsubstantiated crap.

And the Georgia "judge"? What a joke that fool is, he's not even a real judge, he's some "administrative law judge" who isn't even allowed to issue court orders. I'm sure we'll be having fun with that one when it is laughed out of court, next.

And the "forgery"? Tell us all how the State of Hawaii has confirmed it is a forgery? Oh, they haven't? They've said they have the original Vital Statistics Records of his birth? They say it isn't a forgery? So I guess you are telling us all the state is in on it, right? That the State of Hawaii is confirming that forged birth certificates are real, right ? You want us to believe that, right? But, why, exactly, would Hawaii being doing that? You got the guts to answer that question? Are you going to get real with us and tell us that the State of Hawaii is endorsing forged birth certificates, and why?

Thanks for giving us all a load of out right lies, proving what I stated in the OP: crackpot theories.

They didn't evolve, they were born of The Spirits.

That's a whole 'nuther catfight...

A lot of us were born because of the "spirits".

Hmm, a legal and officially recognized document in Hawaii disagrees with the so-called "grandmother" testimony. I wonder which will carry the most weight . . . let me check the evidence rules . . . unsworn out of cour testimony versus regularly maintained government records . . . one is hearsay and one is an exception to the hearsay rule.

The "grandmother", actually a distantly related step-grandmother, never said any such thing. A translator mis-translated what she said. She corrected him. The "Birthers" cut the correction out, because, well, they love to lie. A bunch of crap for morons to listen to on Youtube, but otherwise just that, a bunch of crap.

I thought Adam was a mudman and Eve a ribwoman??

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Indisputable?

Another daily rant of JR's "I hate this political group" trials and tribulations.



Boring to the nth degree.

He's certainly not here to discuss MB's, and nearly every thread he starts begins with why he hates the right end of the USA political spectrum. Yawn.