Does anyone else see the similarities

[lutzTD]

Hillary is at the UN again talking about Iran's intentions to make WMD's and their sources find evil intent for continental US terrorism?

[Dubyagee]

I see a lot of similarities in the last few administrations. D and R labels are carrots on strings.

[Botnst]

It's Bush's fault.

[davidmash]

Originally Posted by lutzTD

Hillary is at the UN again talking about Iran's intentions to make WMD's and their sources find evil intent for continental US terrorism?

If she or the administration advocate the use of invasion forces it will be time to put them out to pasture. Till then it all just talk.

[rs899]

There is one big difference. We aren't the only country worrying about it.

[t walgamuth]

Originally Posted by lutzTD

Hillary is at the UN again talking about Iran's intentions to make WMD's and their sources find evil intent for continental US terrorism?

Sorry I don't understand your intent with the above sentence. What is meant by everythign after 'and', please?

[Botnst]

Originally Posted by rs899

There is one big difference. We aren't the only country worrying about it.

Forces deployed to Iraq.
NATO: A contingent of around 150 advisers under the separate command NATO Training Mission - Iraq-(withdrawn 12/11)
United States: 150,000 invasion 165,000 peak-(withdrawn 12/11)
United Kingdom: 46,000 invasion (withdrawn 5/11)
Australia: 2,000 invasion (withdrawn 7/09)
Romania: 730 peak (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 7/09)
El Salvador: 380 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 1/09)
Estonia: 40 troops (deployed 6/05-withdrawn 1/09)
Bulgaria: 485 peak (deployed 5/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Moldova: 24 peak (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Albania: 240 troops (deployed 4/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Ukraine: 1,650 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Denmark: 545 peak (deployed 4/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Czech Republic: 300 peak (deployed 12/03-withdrawn 12/08)
South Korea: 3,600 peak (deployed 5/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Japan: 600 troops (deployed 1/04-withdrawn 12/08)
Tonga: 55 troops (deployed 7/04-withdrawn 12/08)
Azerbaijan: 250 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Singapore: 175 offshore (deployed 12/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Bosnia and Herzegovina: 85 peak (deployed 6/05-withdrawn 11/08)
Macedonia: 77 peak (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 11/08)
Latvia: 136 peak (deployed 5/03-withdrawn 11/08)
Poland: 200 invasion—2,500 peak (withdrawn 10/08)
Kazakhstan: 29 troops (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 10/08)
Armenia: 46 troops (deployed 1/05-withdrawn 10/08)
Mongolia: 180 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 09/08)
Georgia: 2,000 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 8/08)
Slovakia: 110 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 12/07)
Lithuania: 120 peak (deployed 6/03-withdrawn 08/07)
Italy: 3,200 peak (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 11/06)
Norway: 150 troops (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 8/06)
Hungary: 300 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 3/05)
Netherlands: 1,345 troops (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 3/05)
Portugal: 128 troops (deployed 11/03-withdrawn 2/05)
New Zealand: 61 troops (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 9/04)
Thailand: 423 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 8/04)
Philippines: 51 troops (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 7/04)
Honduras: 368 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 5/04)
Dominican Republic: 302 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 5/04)
Spain: 1,300 troops (deployed 4/03-withdrawn 4/04)
Nicaragua: 230 troops (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 2/04)

[lutzTD]

Originally Posted by t walgamuth

Sorry I don't understand your intent with the above sentence. What is meant by everythign after 'and', please?

sorry I tend to be too inside my own head.

and their sources find evil intent for continental US terrorism?

translation:

she was saying that "reliable" and "creditable" sources have been chattering about Iran's desire to inflict a terrorist attack within the US borders.

I thought this had all the same language as discussion of Saddam's WMD's and his desire to inflict damage within the US borders.

meet the new boss, same as the old boss. it all seems to make a lot more sense when its your watch......

[Honus]

Originally Posted by Botnst

It's Bush's fault.

This is the second time in less than an hour that I agree with Botnst. The loss of our country's credibility on issues related to WMD is Bush's fault, and Cheney's fault, and Rumsfeld's fault,.

[Honus]

Originally Posted by lutzTD

...meet the new boss, same as the old boss. it all seems to make a lot more sense when its your watch......

Hold the phone. You have no basis to say that Secretary Clinton is remotely like "the old boss."

[lutzTD]

Originally Posted by Honus

Hold the phone. You have no basis to say that Secretary Clinton is remotely like "the old boss."

really????

couldnt you put those words in Rumsfeld's mouth? Arent they almost the same words? How sure are we of the reliability of her sources? wasnt Rumsfeld sure then? she probably even has bigger cahoonas.......

[Air&Road]

Yes, I noticed the similarity the other night when I saw a news snippet about UN inspectors looking for nuclear material in Iran.

[Honus]

Originally Posted by lutzTD

really????

couldnt you put those words in Rumsfeld's mouth? Arent they almost the same words?

Right. Same words, different time and different country. I have no reason, at least not yet, to doubt a word Clinton said about Iran. Do you?

How sure are we of the reliability of her sources?

I don't think we know anything about the reliability of her sources, but your previous post went way beyond questioning the reliability of her sources. You equated her to the Bush administration. There is no reason, AFAIK, to slander her in that fashion.

wasnt Rumsfeld sure then?

Hell no.

she probably even has bigger cahoonas.......

I don't doubt that.

[lutzTD]

Originally Posted by Honus

Right. Same words, different time and different country. I have no reason, at least not yet, to doubt a word Clinton said about Iran. Do you?I don't think we know anything about the reliability of her sources, but your previous post went way beyond questioning the reliability of her sources. You equated her to the Bush administration. There is no reason, AFAIK, to slander her in that fashion.Hell no.I don't doubt that.

its hard to tell, it just feels like familiar territory. I did not have any reason to doubt Rumsfeld either, they made a good case and cionvinced a lot of smarter people than me.

as far as Bush, the road to hell is paved with good intentions, unfortunately at that level the mistakes are a lot bigger, just as the consequences of inaction are much bigger

[Botnst]

Originally Posted by Honus

Hold the phone. You have no basis to say that Secretary Clinton is remotely like "the old boss."

Except for the amazing coincidence of strategic arguments, I agree.