Clearly - a threat to "marriage"....

[ramonajim]

.... and all that it stands for.

[kerry]

The Catholic church holds that nobody can have a 'real' marriage if they live in a society which permits divorces.

[Jim B.]

Originally Posted by ramonajim

.... and all that it stands for.

DENIM colostomy bags ???!!!

[junqueyardjim]

Originally Posted by kerry

The Catholic church holds that nobody can have a 'real' marriage if they live in a society which permits divorces.

Where did you dredge that rubbish up from Kerry. Originally I thought you had some smarts. Now that all seems to have gone south.

[MTI]

Originally Posted by junqueyardjim

Where did you dredge that rubbish up from Kerry. Originally I thought you had some smarts. Now that all seems to have gone south.

They don't cover the issue on WMD?

[kerry]

Originally Posted by junqueyardjim

Where did you dredge that rubbish up from Kerry. Originally I thought you had some smarts. Now that all seems to have gone south.

I read it the day before yesterday. I could probably dig up the reference if necessary. I think the quote came right from the Holy See itself, but it might have been from one of their theologians, Germain Grisez. There's actually nothing odd about it, since it's consistent with everything else they hold about the natural law and its relationship to human sexual relationships and reproduction. It's the exact same rationale as that applied to gay marriages.
Humans are social animals required to follow the natural law. The natural law demands permanent heterosexual marriages with sex only for reproduction and within marriage. These laws bind us to the real and true social goods created by God. Since we are designed to intentionally follow these natural laws, and variation from their rational demands undermines the social fabric of which marriage is a part. Same thing could be said about masturbation. Any society that permits it undermines true marriages.

[nate300d]

Originally Posted by kerry

The Catholic church holds that nobody can have a 'real' marriage if they live in a society which permits divorces.

With that belief then Marry and Joseph were never 'really' married.......

[aklim]

Originally Posted by kerry

I read it the day before yesterday. I could probably dig up the reference if necessary. I think the quote came right from the Holy See itself, but it might have been from one of their theologians, Germain Grisez. There's actually nothing odd about it, since it's consistent with everything else they hold about the natural law and its relationship to human sexual relationships and reproduction. It's the exact same rationale as that applied to gay marriages.
Humans are social animals required to follow the natural law. The natural law demands permanent heterosexual marriages with sex only for reproduction and within marriage. These laws bind us to the real and true social goods created by God. Since we are designed to intentionally follow these natural laws, and variation from their rational demands undermines the social fabric of which marriage is a part. Same thing could be said about masturbation. Any society that permits it undermines true marriages.

I think if you look further you will find that jerking off, gay sex, bestiality, necrophilia, etc, etc, have one thing in common. Sex that results in no kids. A very big negative for the religion. Smaller group of kids, smaller group to play with. That means lower numbers and will lower the clout of the religion.

[SwampYankee]

Originally Posted by aklim

I think if you look further you will find that jerking off, gay sex, bestiality, necrophilia, etc, etc, have one thing in common. Sex that results in no kids. A very big negative for the religion. Smaller group of kids, smaller group to play with. That means lower numbers and will lower the clout of the religion.

Pun intended?

[aklim]

Originally Posted by SwampYankee

Pun intended?

And insult the catholic church? NEVER.

[Carleton Hughes]

Have you met anyone of sense and reason who takes this popish flummery seriously?

[kerry]

Originally Posted by Carleton Hughes

Have you met anyone of sense and reason who takes this popish flummery seriously?

One of the most influential people who take this popish flummery seriously:

Oxford Law :: Profile of John Finnis

[kerry]

Along with Finnis, Germain Grisez is a longstanding ardent promotor of popish flummery. I found this bio of him. The last paragraph is most interesting. Talk about hypocrisy. In spite of all the anti-divorce elements in his moral views, it looks like he and his second wife have functionally divorced:

"Failing to live peacefully together, however, the Grisezs agreed to separate on 21 September 2010. While they expect this separation to be permanent in this world, the Grisezs hope and pray that they will remain faithful to each other and to the Lord, meet again in the Kingdom, and live happily there with each other and all their loved ones for ever and ever."


The Way of the Lord Jesus: Grisez and Colleagues

[Yak]

I thought this thread was going to be about the 5x bride in the UK before age 30.

All hetero, though, so the sanctity of the institution is intact.

Welcome to Linda Ikeji's Blog: UK woman set to marry her 5th husband at age 29

[cmbdiesel]

Originally Posted by ramonajim

.... and all that it stands for.

Look like terrorists too... outta be on a no-fly list....