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So why do we bother with 'state's rights' at all.
We've all seen it. The GOP War on Women, an orchestrated assault on female reproductive rights being waged in state house after state house. And of course the 'Voter ID' laws, our modern version of Jim Crow, in state house after state house, and of course, Gestapo-style immigration control ala Arizona and Alabama:
Obama admin. blocks Texas voter ID law | The Raw Story And we come to find out, it's all coming from a centrally run organization, an organization that is of course, run by massive corporations, that is designing laws for right wing legislatures and their stooges to pass: Discreet nonprofit American Legislative Exchange Council writes bills for conservative lawmakers | The Raw Story Which brings up the question: why bother with states at all? If the GOP now wishes to run the governments of the state from a centralized corporate controlled legislation writing body that is outside the control of government, isn't that really just the implementation of Benito Mussolini's dream of a Corporate State? If that's the way they want to do it, why do they give us all this "10th Amendment" malarkey? |
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Probably by the same insidious method by which we are conditioned to believe we're homeowners. If you don't pay your Property Tax {technically illegal but let's not get started} see who really owns your home.
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Aside from who supports what, I've always wondered what the big problem is with showing an ID to vote. I thought everyone of voting age had to have some kind of ID or driver's license.
There may be a simple answer but since I've always had a license, I can't relate.
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The core argument for those opposed to it, is that a lot of people who vote and don't drive, and you'd be surprised how many people that is, don't have the 20$ to get one of these new "photo id's", or the means to get to a government office to get one. It is therefore an unConstitutional burden placed on a voter that infringes on his right to vote, that is targeted at the poor and the minority voters. We did not have photo ID's in this country for centuries, why the person admitting the voter cannot simply do what has always been done, which is to look at the signature of the voter and compare it to his registration, is beyond me, we do not have any sort of national voter fraud crisis. It costs virtually nothing to fill out a card, and it can be mailed. If they want to add a fingerprint to it or something, fine with me. But this "photo ID" crap is Orwellian Police State BS, designed to dis-enfranchise the poor.
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Feel free to come up with the twenty bucks for them and give them a ride to the registar's office. You're inclusion of the alcohol meme also tips us off to what you really think of them.
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I wonder how many voters don't drive and cannot get out to get a government supplied photo ID.
We have to show a photo ID for many lesser transactions. I'd prefer the peace of mind from knowing that there is even a lesser chance of fraudulent voting. OTOH, Stalin said he didn't care who voted...........as long as he controlled who counted the votes. This mad rush to electronic voting machines seems misdirected at best. I'd prefer something non-electronic--that could not be hacked. I don't care a whit about knowing who got how many votes within minutes of the closing of the polls. I care a great deal that no one tampers with the count. I want a system that is safe.
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Well, one gives you an immediate sense of gratification, enjoyment and participation in a system larger than ourselves....
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And that one would be the...........?
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JR,
This thread sounds almost like the RWNJs you so often complain about. A massive, secret organization that you were able to penetrate. "yawn"
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So, for you, "state's rights" refers only to those laws with which you agree (and/or for which you agree with the source of the proposed legislation).
Otherwise states are not free to try different things. . . . Ergo, you're not good with the concept of state's rights. |
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Read the link, there is no longer anything secret about them. They write the laws, and their paid stooges pass them, not exactly some grand conspiracy, it's as plain as the tin foil hat on Dudesky's head.
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From the 2002 "Game On" episode of "The West Wing" the episode about a single presidential debate:
Governor Ritchie: My view of this is simple: we don't need a Federal Department of Education telling us our children have to learn Esperanto, or they have to learn Eskimo poetry. Let the states decide, let the communities decide on health care, on education, on lower taxes, not higher taxes. Now, he's going to throw a big word at you - "unfunded mandate." He's going to say if Washington lets the states do it, it's an unfunded mandate. But what he doesn't like is the federal government losing power. But I call it the ingenuity of the American people. Moderator: President Bartlet, you have 60 seconds for a question and an answer. President Bartlet: Well, first of all, let's clear up a couple of things. "Unfunded mandate" is two words, not one big word. There are times when we're fifty states and there are times when we're one country, and have national needs. And the way I know this is that Florida didn't fight Germany in World War II or establish civil rights. You think states should do the governing wall-to-wall. That's a perfectly valid opinion. But your state of Florida got $12.6 billion in federal money last year - from Nebraskans, and Virginians, and New Yorkers, and Alaskans, with their Eskimo poetry. 12.6 out of a state budget of $50 billion. I'm supposed to be using this time for a question, so here it is: Can we have it back, please? |
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If you can't figure out how to get yourself down to the DMV with twenty bucks in your hand every four years or so, you probably shouldn't be choosing the leader of the free world.
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I think it would be kind of cool one time, when everyone shows up to vote, they press a finger onto a biometric reader and they have that information added to an electronic registration. Then, every time after that, they just press the reader to begin the voting process.
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