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Old 04-05-2012, 10:46 AM
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Go camping with the pigs (well kind of) - The Daily Iowan

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Camp Coralville Lake, located on the gorgeous Coralville Reservoir, is the best place to send your child while you do things other than parenting.

Instead of staying at home sniping cyber-Arabs, your little Billy will experience the awe-inspiring beauty of Iowa's stunning natural landscape around the Reservoir, built in 1958.

There your child will be free to frolic in the dark, auburn waters fed by the Iowa River, the nation's third-most endangered waterway, pronounced dead in 2009. There will be water-skiing available, or if your child prefers, tubing, which reduces his chance of infection by roughly 78 percent as long as he or she never touches the water.

Once in the water, your child will learn about all kinds of pollutants that make Iowa's waterways unique. Did you know that, along the Iowa River, there are more than 100 communities with no sewage treatment facilities whatsoever? That's right. It drains right into the river. That smelly waste will be running right through little Billy's toes, almost 1,000 gallons a day.

For this reason, Camp Coralville Lake is the best summer camp to develop antibodies against E. coli. In the Iowa River, E. coli concentrations are quadruple that of the Environmental Protection Agency's recommended recreational standards, which, our experts say, were made to cater to sissies.

Sissies need not apply to Camp Coralville Lake.

What's even more outstanding than 1,000 daily gallons of raw human sewage? The amount of pig poo running through the same waters. Camp Coralville Lake is the most authentic farm-water experience your child can enjoy.

Don't listen to those posers in North Carolina, who boast having only 10 million hogs — which, according to Professor Mark Sobsey of the University of North Carolina, can produce more waste than the citizens of New York, North Carolina, California, Pennsylvania, Texas, New Hampshire, and North Dakota combined.

Ten million hogs? Whatever. Iowa is home to 25 million. In a given year, the pigs living along the Iowa River basin alone will produce more fecal matter than the entire state of California. Gee whiz, right?

At Camp Coralville Lake, your child will learn everything there is to know about the great state of Iowa. Sure, everybody knows about Iowa's pig, corn, and cow production — but did you know that Iowa is also a trailblazer in the field of polluting the Gulf of Mexico?

All that farm-runoff runs right into the mighty Mississippi. Once there, those pollutants travel south until they hit the Gulf of Mexico, expanding the legendary Dead Zone, in which no fish are able to survive. The great Iowa River contributes to the largely lifeless Dead Zone perhaps more than any other river feeding into the Mississippi, and your child will bathe in its glory.

And as the sun sets on the reflection-less, chocolate-colored lake, campers and camp councilors will discuss ways to preserve the community toilet that is the Iowa River.

Luckily, because of constant budget cuts, the EPA has been staying out of Iowa's business. It has left it up to us to take care of our waterways, and we did. For example, in 2009 the Iowa Legislature passed Senate File 432, which makes it easier to spread manure on frozen land, thus slipping right into Iowa's waterways. This is but another example of Iowa's rich history of prioritizing Big Agriculture over the environment, and it's up to future generations to continue that trend.

Camp Coralville Lake is dedicated to educating your child about the many benefits of unregulated agriculture. We will also make them exercise by making your kid swim in watered-down pig s**t.

While other camps claim to have the more "natural" experience, Camp Coralville Lake prepares your child for the future state of the world's water supply. People will continue to need to eat at the lowest initial cost possible, and agricultural waterways are always first-up on the chopping block.

Make your child spend the summer at Camp Coralville Lake, where people, water, and farming exist in harmony.


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We have made such progress with cleaning up the environment it was worth going trillions of dollars into debt, right? Couldn't keep the jobs here partially because of environmental regulation, right? You listen to the NEWS so you are well informed, right?

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Speaking of cyber-ay-rabs ... this article almost makes me wish for sharia in the US -- at least all the pigs (along with the owners of the corepirate pig farming conglomerates) will end up slaughtered. Filthy animals.
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Old 04-05-2012, 11:34 AM
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Speaking of cyber-ay-rabs ... this article almost makes me wish for sharia in the US -- at least all the pigs (along with the owners of the corepirate pig farming conglomerates) will end up slaughtered. Filthy animals.
**Time-out> I cannot allow you to paint such a broad stroke with your Sharia interpretation being...'It is designed to eliminate the West'.
While it is true that Radical Islamist's may/do interpret the Law in this way. I must point out that they are a small percentage of the Muslim population, and in no way represent the majority.

To the majority of decent, hard working, morally sound Muslims, Sharia represents something that is both completely differant than the picture you are loosely painting in regards to the U.S./Western World-as well as being much deeper than is easily comphrehended by the Western mind-set.

I have hopefully provided a clear picture for you, and hopefully we will not to have this conversation again. Thank You in advance.

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***Time In> You may continue whatver it is you are trying to achieve, be it polariseing/alienateing people,venting frustration, whatever kick it is.

By all means..Carry on.
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I wasn't talking about eliminating the West as much as banning the production of pig meat, one of the dirtiest and most environmentally foul forms of food out there. Islamic (or Jewish) law = no pork.

No polarization intended.
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Old 04-05-2012, 01:20 PM
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I wasn't talking about eliminating the West as much as banning the production of pig meat, one of the dirtiest and most environmentally foul forms of food out there. Islamic (or Jewish) law = no pork.

No polarization intended.
Then I mis-read you, and stand in err.

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I don't think the country is trillions in debt due to pig farming regulations.

I seem to recall a tax cut and then two wars that were unfunded except by borrowing money. There is also the cost of rebuilding the economy after eight years of trickle down voo-doo.

Jobs went overseas due to cheap labor. Shutting down the EPA would do nothing to address that situation.
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Old 04-05-2012, 10:28 PM
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the problem isn't pig farming.it's hog confinements.believe me i live in n.w. iowa any abandon farm site gets torn down and a new confinement goes up.and they jam em in there.and alot of em contract with tyson.so they don't even own the hogs and what i find really disturbing is alot of em build within 500-1000 ft of streams and rivers.you hear it all the time such and such had a spill of 10,000 gallons of untreated sewage.blah blah blah and the DNR fines em $100.they need to fine em $1000 bucks a gallon but it will never happen because farmers chit in this state don't stink. period end of story.years ago when they got out of the fields in the fall they turned em loose to free range.if you have ever had free range pork you will never go back to regular store bought.we know people that still free range their hogs and on occasion will buy one and have it butchered.
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Old 04-06-2012, 08:09 AM
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the problem isn't pig farming.it's hog confinements.believe me i live in n.w. iowa any abandon farm site gets torn down and a new confinement goes up.and they jam em in there.and alot of em contract with tyson.so they don't even own the hogs and what i find really disturbing is alot of em build within 500-1000 ft of streams and rivers.you hear it all the time such and such had a spill of 10,000 gallons of untreated sewage.blah blah blah and the DNR fines em $100.they need to fine em $1000 bucks a gallon but it will never happen because farmers chit in this state don't stink. period end of story.years ago when they got out of the fields in the fall they turned em loose to free range.if you have ever had free range pork you will never go back to regular store bought.we know people that still free range their hogs and on occasion will buy one and have it butchered.
Bingo. If the farmer won't do it tyson's way, his days as a farmer are done. The modern way, sell out or get out. Attempt to maintain standards of decency and you are done. Tyson is far from alone in this regard but they are a good example.
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Old 04-06-2012, 08:12 AM
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I don't think the country is trillions in debt due to pig farming regulations.

I seem to recall a tax cut and then two wars that were unfunded except by borrowing money. There is also the cost of rebuilding the economy after eight years of trickle down voo-doo.

Jobs went overseas due to cheap labor. Shutting down the EPA would do nothing to address that situation.
Good for you, gold star for comprehension, motivation and insight.
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Old 04-06-2012, 10:37 AM
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Speaking of cyber-ay-rabs ... this article almost makes me wish for sharia in the US -- at least all the pigs (along with the owners of the corepirate pig farming conglomerates) will end up slaughtered. Filthy animals.
You hate bacon, right? Uh huh.

Pigs are no dirtier than any other livestock. This issue is the manner in which they're farmed. There are other areas of the country in which cow manure runoff causes similar issues, either from dairies or feedlots.
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Pig, Cow, Horse, Dog, Cat or People Sh** it doesn't matter, we are all literally drowning in it. If there wasn't a market for pork, it wouldn't exist. Ditto for other animal meats. We're killing ourselves.
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The most profound and veracious statement ever posted on this forum bar none.

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