Drug companies and their commercials - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

chasinthesun · #1 05-28-2012, 11:58 AM

A Drug Commercial states, "if you have a host of bad side affects to consult your doctor immediately".Headaches ,nausea , sleepless nights ,bloodey noise,or if you feel you want to kill someone

,consult your doctor .
A thought came to mind after watching this TV add ,if their sole purpose is to sell drugs ,which it is ,then wouldnt it be inventive of these drug companies to introduce a pill that does have SIDE EFFECTS ,Then help the patient reverse its side affects with another type of pill that they also market ,a countactive pill of the first.A rollercoaster of drugs has risen from these Giants of Giants in the pill pusher industry ,if its soley to make more profit and not about being a good product then why all the side markers in their adds.
Your doctor along with many others are encouraged by these companies to use their drugs through solicitation by drug reps,now the drug companies are going straight to the source with flashey commercials,its enough to make you sick ,oh yeah ,they have a pill for that too.

cmbdiesel · #2 05-28-2012, 12:05 PM

Wish the FCC would ban drug commercials.

And lawyer commercials.

MTI · #3 05-28-2012, 12:09 PM

Reprint of Steve Martin's "Side Effects"

Do not pilot a plane, unless you are among the ten per cent of users who experience "spontaneous test-pilot knowledge." If your hair begins to smell like burning tires, move away from any buildings or populated areas, and apply tincture of iodine to the head until you no longer hear what could be taken for a "countdown." May cause stigmata in Mexicans. If a fungus starts to grow between your eyebrows, call the Guinness Book of World Records. May induce a tendency to compulsively repeat the phrase "no can do

Air&Road · #4 05-28-2012, 01:54 PM

You really hit a hot button for me! These commercials just WEAR ME OUT! First of all I thought that prescription drugs were just that, prescription as in prescribed by a doctor, not advertised so that someone can go beg their doctor for a particular drug.

That is bad enough, but what you point out is far worse. If these medicines have all these side effects WHY ARE THEY LEGAL? Seems to me that the FDA isn't doing their job. Of course with the beaureacrats, their probably taking some sort of favors or even bribes to allow them to go on the market. We're talking BIG money involved here. Follow the money.

Palangi · #5 05-28-2012, 01:56 PM

Every medication has side effects. Even an asprin.......

The Clk Man · #6 05-28-2012, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MTI

Reprint of Steve Martin's "Side Effects"

Do not pilot a plane, unless you are among the ten per cent of users who experience "spontaneous test-pilot knowledge." If your hair begins to smell like burning tires, move away from any buildings or populated areas, and apply tincture of iodine to the head until you no longer hear what could be taken for a "countdown." May cause stigmata in Mexicans. If a fungus starts to grow between your eyebrows, call the Guinness Book of World Records. May induce a tendency to compulsively repeat the phrase "no can do

Ba ha ha ha ha.

Pavka007 · #7 05-28-2012, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Palangi

Every medication has side effects. Even an asprin.......

Walking down the street has a side effect as well but everybody is walking

Some people are allergic to specific pills, some are not.

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Originally Posted by LarryBible

Seems to me that the FDA isn't doing their job. Of course with the beaureacrats, their probably taking some sort of favors or even bribes to allow them to go on the market. We're talking BIG money involved here. Follow the money.

Larry you clearly don't know how the system works. Passing a FDA approval for a new medicine is perhaps the most difficult thing in the world, not to mention that before the pills hit the shelf in your local pharmacy they need to pass 3 separate FDA approvals during development stage.
From starting a research for a new medicine to this very same medicine being sold over the counter it takes between 5 and 9 years (depend of the drug) so it is not as easy as you think.
Before you start arguing with me I just would like to point out that I've retired from the pharmaceutical industry (R&D field) after 12 years on the job and more than 35 clinical trials as a Project Manager.

Air&Road · #8 05-28-2012, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pavka007

Walking down the street has a side effect as well but everybody is walking

Some people are allergic to specific pills, some are not.

Larry you clearly don't know how the system works. Passing a FDA approval for a new medicine is perhaps the most difficult thing in the world, not to mention that before the pills hit the shelf in your local pharmacy they need to pass 3 separate FDA approvals during development stage.
From starting a research for a new medicine to this very same medicine being sold over the counter it takes between 5 and 9 years (depend of the drug) so it is not as easy as you think.
Before you start arguing with me I just would like to point out that I've retired from the pharmaceutical industry (R&D field) after 12 years on the job and more than 35 clinical trials as a Project Manager.

This is all well and good and sounds as if you did some worthwhile things for mankind and I thank you for that.

All that said, WHY do they have to advertise PRESCRIPTION medicine? Shouldn't it be left to a doctor to determine necessary medications? Can you say with certainty that there is no "lobbying" in the FDA?

MTI · #9 05-28-2012, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible

All that said, WHY do they have to advertise PRESCRIPTION medicine? Shouldn't it be left to a doctor to determine necessary medications? Can you say with certainty that there is no "lobbying" in the FDA?

First, there is advertising where you live, right? So, you must be somewhat familiar with the goals of adverts.

Second, think about who the consumer is . . . Yes, it's the patient who will ask their local Marcus Welby, M.D. whether its right for them.

Then there's brand name recognition.

Simple really

Air&Road · #10 05-28-2012, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MTI

First, there is advertising where you live, right? So, you must be somewhat familiar with the goals of adverts.

Second, think about who the consumer is . . . Yes, it's the patient who will ask their local Marcus Welby, M.D. whether its right for them.

Then there's brand name recognition.

Simple really

Sure, I understand marketing. Problem is, this is PRESCRIPTION medicine. This is, of course, about increasing sales. It's difficult for me to not think that some patients go in Marcus' office demanding the miracle drug they saw advertised on Dancing with the Stars and get it when they don't need it. If they don't need it, it stands to reason that there is no reason for them to take the chance on the serious side effect possibility. It just doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

MTI · #11 05-28-2012, 07:15 PM

Advertising and marketing to the doctor is much more direct and posh. Everything from pens and post it notes branded with logos, then there's the free dinners and junkets.

cmbdiesel · #12 05-28-2012, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible

This is all well and good and sounds as if you did some worthwhile things for mankind and I thank you for that.

All that said, WHY do they have to advertise PRESCRIPTION medicine? Shouldn't it be left to a doctor to determine necessary medications? Can you say with certainty that there is no "lobbying" in the FDA?

Holy cow!!! I agree with Larry!!

Ban commercials for pharmaceuticals.

retmil46 · #13 05-28-2012, 08:35 PM

And some "doctors" are eager and willing to play the game with the salesmen.

The gent I first tried seeing when I moved to TX in 09, played the game to the hilt. When he found out I had Tricare and employer insurance, he immediately wanted to do a physical on me (even though I'd had one done not 6 months before before being laid off in NC), and wanted to run every damn test known to man on me. Then he insisted on finding a reason to schedule "follow-up" visits every month.

The last straw was on the third visit, when he insisted on prescribing cholesterol medication - even though my BP, heart, and cholestrol levels were well within healthy norms - "just in case". And a prescription for what was essentially Preparation H - and I don't have anything wrong at that end of my body. And the topper, because I enjoy an occasional cigar, was a prescription for Chantix - filled out with a pre-made rubber stamp he'd gotten from one of the drug company reps - and at the time it was so new the pharmacies didn't even stock it yet and they weren't even running those inane commercials on TV yet either!!

After I left his office and stopped by the pharmacy just long enough to find out what he was trying to prescribe and what the effects would have been, I took all 3 of those prescriptions and threw them in the trash, and never went back to see that effin pill-pusher.

cmac2012 · #14 05-29-2012, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible

This is all well and good and sounds as if you did some worthwhile things for mankind and I thank you for that.

All that said, WHY do they have to advertise PRESCRIPTION medicine? Shouldn't it be left to a doctor to determine necessary medications? Can you say with certainty that there is no "lobbying" in the FDA?

Ask your doctor if triopenin is right for you!

They want you to push sales of their product and I gather that the tactic works pretty well.

Aquaticedge · #15 05-29-2012, 12:13 AM

jeff foxworthy's " thought on side effects " - YouTube