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BobK 05-30-2012 09:34 AM

I'll have you know I don't drink!

JB3 05-30-2012 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jplinville (Post 2946444)
Better rewind that and listen to it again...she said she wanted him to pull out.

Anyway...Tomorrow they will be showing all three parts beginning at 5pm EST, for those that missed anything (Or heard it wrong :P)

she sure wasn't all that excited to see him though, geeze. Kevin Costner got the way better deal on that front. "I think I gave up on you, husband".
Words Id love to hear coming back from POW camp after being gone for years.

Last night sure was bloody. Dudesky sure is right, a lot of this BS wouldn't have happened if all these idiots weren't armed and brewing/drinking moonshine constantly.

This is a very interesting series, the conflict started with a very genuine disagreement, and then murder based on civil war passions during wartime, which seemed almost likely given the situation, but then the second episode sure shows how it was perpetuated by drunken idiots with reprisal and counter reprisal.

elchivito 05-30-2012 09:58 AM

I think it's well done historically. Weapons and other props look correct and speech and word usage is remarkable for the most part, not stereotypical hillbilly talk. On the other hand it's a ping pong game of stupidity and ignorance dressed up as "honor". These people weren't very far away from their Scots-Irish forebears, for whom blood feuds were a way of life.

MS Fowler 05-30-2012 10:04 AM

When revenge is the motive for each side, when does it stop?

JB3 05-30-2012 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by elchivito (Post 2946532)
I think it's well done historically. Weapons and other props look correct and speech and word usage is remarkable for the most part, not stereotypical hillbilly talk. On the other hand it's a ping pong game of stupidity and ignorance dressed up as "honor". These people weren't very far away from their Scots-Irish forebears, for whom blood feuds were a way of life.

Hatfields eldest son sure has a way with the McCoy ladies though. Id be a little irritated at that too, that guy sure made it worse, wiki shows that its pretty accurate to what this guy was really doing with his time.

"Out of all the girls out there, first ill get my fathers hated rival's daughter pregnant, then start screwing her cousin, and marry her on a whim."

half of this crap wouldn't have happened if that guy could keep some control of himself and out from under the dresses of those particular women. Doesn't sound like he was hard up for any female company either

cmac2012 05-30-2012 01:02 PM

I couldn't help but notice a similarity with current history. If indeed a large part of the beginning of the feud had to do with the Hatfield fellow concluding the South's cause in the war was lost and opting to make more productive use of his scrawny behind while the McCoy man insisted that he should stay and fulfill duty to God and country, this reminds me a bit of the rancor over Vietnam, where a fairly large number of citizens decided the war was not worth waging while an approx. equal amount were determined to fight until doomsday and were embittered at their perception of abandonment.

(long sentence alert)

The Clk Man 05-30-2012 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dudesky (Post 2946512)
Drunk Goobers with knives,guns and sex.
Urban life in the beautiful hills of Appalachia.

And Raisinettes? :eek::D

HuskyMan 05-30-2012 11:07 PM

There still exists places in West Virginia and Kentucky where this type of thing is not unusual. Let's just say if one has a strong New York accent or if one tends to ask nosy prying questions, it might be best to not wander out into the Kentucky outback. They don't take kindly to outsiders.......

elchivito 05-31-2012 10:14 AM

Well it ended rather well I thought. Them folks shore nuff drank their share and then some didn't they?

JB3 05-31-2012 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by elchivito (Post 2947182)
Well it ended rather well I thought. Them folks shore nuff drank their share and then some didn't they?

x2 on it ending rather well. I enjoyed it, but it sure was an eye opener.

What an incredible waste, a grudge perpetuated by clannish groups drinking too much, and having weapons at the ready. I think the series kinda really made that clear too, how silly the whole thing was.

Kinda gives weight to the whole temperance movement and eventually how prohibition came about too if you think about it, with this only being the most blatant example of stuff like this going on all the time everywhere during that period, what with everyone armed and drunk.

elchivito 05-31-2012 01:03 PM

Estimates of the annual per capita consumption in 1830 of alcohol, 3.9 gallons. That's gallons of PURE alcohol, not beer, wine or whiskey.

The Rise and Fall of Alcohol Consumption in Early America | Suite101.com

Dudesky 05-31-2012 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by elchivito (Post 2947290)
Estimates of the annual per capita consumption in 1830 of alcohol, 3.9 gallons. That's gallons of PURE alcohol, not beer, wine or whiskey.

The Rise and Fall of Alcohol Consumption in Early America | Suite101.com


And from the movie, it looked like they drank it like water at times.

elchivito 05-31-2012 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dudesky (Post 2947291)
And from the movie, it looked like they drank it like water at times.

Some things just aren't fair.:D

The Clk Man 05-31-2012 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler (Post 2946540)
When revenge is the motive for each side, when does it stop?

When the better Man steps forward. :)

The Clk Man 05-31-2012 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by HuskyMan (Post 2946977)
There still exists places in West Virginia and Kentucky where this type of thing is not unusual. Let's just say if one has a strong New York accent or if one tends to ask nosy prying questions, it might be best to not wander out into the Kentucky outback. They don't take kindly to outsiders.......

When I moved my family from Fla. to central Korntucky, we were considered outsiders. It took almost two years before we were let in. :)


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