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MTI · #46 05-31-2012, 05:18 PM

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There still exists places in West Virginia and Kentucky where this type of thing is not unusual. Let's just say if one has a strong New York accent or if one tends to ask nosy prying questions, it might be best to not wander out into the Kentucky outback. They don't take kindly to outsiders.......

There are such places all over this country, including major metropolitan areas. From Maine to Hawaii.

MTI · #47 06-01-2012, 06:08 PM

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cmac2012 · #48 06-03-2012, 03:02 PM

Finally got around to watching all of it. Not bad, seems to have a good bit of historical accuracy. I have to wonder if the second McCoy girl to get involved with Johnse was just a double agent all along.

Plenty of sinning on both sides but it seems as thought the elder McCoy was a particularly hard nut to crack.

The Clk Man · #49 06-03-2012, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012

Finally got around to watching all of it. Not bad, seems to have a good bit of historical accuracy. I have to wonder if the second McCoy girl to get involved with Johnse was just a double agent all along.

Plenty of sinning on both sides but it seems as thought the elder McCoy was a particularly hard nut to crack.

The credits at the end said that Johnse Hatfield was married an additional 4 times.

2k2s430 · #50 06-03-2012, 09:53 PM

I watched the mini series however I was never able to watch uninterrupted. I have an 8 year old and a 7 year old that made sure to only interrupt at the best moments. Still I enjoyed the series, I plan on watching it again!

cmac2012 · #51 06-04-2012, 03:42 AM

I thought it well made in many respects but dang, I often had a hard time understanding the dialogue. I would replay it several times with the volume up high and could still not make out what the hay-ell they were saying. I'm often amazed at films in general that they don't go in and splice a re-reading of the lines over the garbled ones. Surely they could get remote readings of the lines from the actors, couldn't be that expensive, and I would think they have the tech to do it seamlessly.

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Originally Posted by The Clk Man

The credits at the end said that Johnse Hatfield was married an additional 4 times.

Found this, was also mentioned in the credits but this has more detail:

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In a twist of fate, Johnse Hatfield, convicted separately and later than the others of feud crimes, was pardoned when he saved the life of Lt. Gov. William Pryor Thorne as the latter was attacked by an inmate during the official's prison inspection. Johnse's wife Nancy had long since left him, moved in with and, upon the pair's mutual divorces, eventually married his pursuer, Frank Phillips. She died at 36.

http://blueridgecountry.com/archive/hatfields-and-mccoys.html

Ara T. · #52 06-04-2012, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012

I thought it well made in many respects but dang, I often had a hard time understanding the dialogue. I would replay it several times with the volume up high and could still not make out what the hay-ell they were saying. I'm often amazed at films in general that they don't go in and splice a re-reading of the lines over the garbled ones. Surely they could get remote readings of the lines from the actors, couldn't be that expensive, and I would think they have the tech to do it seamlessly.Found this, was also mentioned in the credits but this has more detail:

The Hatfield-McCoy Feud: Roseanna, Don't You Cry - Favorite Articles - Archive

Agree with you on the dialogue. Too much muttering and mumbling. Some of the dialogue was extremely cheesy as well.
"AH AM HELL ON URTH" But hey better than the usual crap History Channel peddles nowadays.

jplinville · #53 06-04-2012, 08:03 AM

Since my grandparents and uncles hail from those same hills that the H&M's fought on, I grew up listening to that same dialect. My grandfather, who used to tell me stories of the feud that were told to him by his father, had a VERY thick accent from the hills of Kentucky.

Oddly, I had NO problems understanding each and every word they said. I did, however, had to explain some of it to my wife and kids.

SwampYankee · #54 06-04-2012, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jplinville

Since my grandparents and uncles hail from those same hills that the H&M's fought on, I grew up listening to that same dialect. My grandfather, who used to tell me stories of the feud that were told to him by his father, had a VERY thick accent from the hills of Kentucky.

Oddly, I had NO problems understanding each and every word they said. I did, however, had to explain some of it to my wife and kids.

Hell, me and mine going back centuries are all from New England and I didn't have much trouble understanding them. Some of the Maine relatives aren't much different from the H&M's, except they have some of Edison's lightning bulbs and their accents are a different funny.

I've watched episodes 1 & 2 in hour segments (after my little guys go to bed) and will start 3 tonight. I've enjoyed it.

BobK · #55 06-04-2012, 10:15 AM

I have to admit, I did not have any trouble at all understanding them. Then again, I have spent all but 2 years of my life in Ky.

jplinville · #56 06-04-2012, 10:22 AM

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I have to admit, I did not have any trouble at all understanding them. Then again, I have spent all but 2 years of my life in Ky.

It's an acquired ability, necessary for outsiders to learn if they plan on doing any business or traveling through the area.

SwampYankee · #57 06-04-2012, 11:01 AM

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When I moved my family from Fla. to central Korntucky, we were considered outsiders. It took almost two years before we were let in.

Wow, central KY is more accepting than central ME!

My late uncle was born in Hartford, CT, spent a good part of his childhood in ME and moved there 35+ years ago. He was still considered a flat-lander because he wasn't born there even though he served on numerous boards, was a cop for awhile, was a member of the fire dept. That's not to say he wasn't accepted, he became an integral part of the community. Flat-lander is generally a derogative term reserved for those that come in, tear down the old house or cottage and build a McMansion then start squawking about the schools, town services, paving the dirt roads, complain about the "smelly" farms next door, the farm/yard truck parked outside in the neighbor's yard, etc. so he was only one in the technical sense that he wasn't born there. He was more "Mainer" than many of them!

The Clk Man · #58 06-04-2012, 11:04 AM

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Wow, central KY is more accepting than central ME!

My late uncle was born in Hartford, CT, spent a good part of his childhood in ME and moved there 35+ years ago. He was still considered a flat-lander because he wasn't born there even though he served on numerous boards, was a cop for awhile, was a member of the fire dept. That's not to say he wasn't accepted, he became an integral part of the community. Flat-lander is generally a derogative term reserved for those that come in, tear down the old house or cottage and build a McMansion then start squawking about the schools, town services, paving the dirt roads, complain about the "smelly" farms next door, the farm/yard truck parked outside in the neighbor's yard, etc. so he was only one in the technical sense that he wasn't born there. He was more "Mainer" than many of them!

Did he ever buy any "Pots" for his car?

SwampYankee · #59 06-04-2012, 11:20 AM

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Did he ever buy any "Pots" for his car?

You mean cah?

While able to understand the most native Maine-ah, he was most proud of maintaining his CT non-accent despite the full immersion for decades.

cmac2012 · #60 06-04-2012, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ara T.

Agree with you on the dialogue. Too much muttering and mumbling. Some of the dialogue was extremely cheesy as well.
"AH AM HELL ON URTH" But hey better than the usual crap History Channel peddles nowadays.

They did paint some fairly broad caricatures. The McCoy woman who had been married to Johnse, after her true love Phillips was shot, after hitting the guy who shot him (in self defense if the film is to be believed) chimed in 'there weren't none better than my Frank fer killin' Hatfields!' Oh well, live by the sword . . .

And the guy in the role of her brother hammed it up pretty good when he came to their cabin saying they were after him, he needed to hide out, etc. It was sorta funny, him waving his gun as he gestured. He said he shot the guy, they asked why, he says 'cuz I was drunk!'

God only knows how much of this was pure fabrication by the film-makers, well maybe someone other than God but not me.