Originally Posted by dropnosky (Post 2950289)

Ok, here we are back to the police state but with personal liberties and small government paradox that conservatives so easily roll out without taking 2 seconds to consider what they are saying. This is from an independent, not a democrat too, for your info larry. Im sick of rhetoric from both parties, but the conservative republican machine is especially hypocritical and idiotic.

You can't have both. Pot is an effectively pointless substance to attack, and has only been illegal since the 2nd world war. Legalized, time could be concentrated on pursuing more dangerous drug production, and revenue could be realized from taxation.

Originally Posted by LarryBible (Post 2950293)

It's a HUGE part of the decadance of our country. People dumbed down by any substance are often less than productive citizens.

Originally Posted by LarryBible (Post 2950293)

It's a HUGE part of the decadance of our country. People dumbed down by any substance are often less than productive citizens. If they are productive they could be MORE productive without substances. Their morales go down the tube. Their alertness goes down the tube. And their brain gets fried by substances over time.

They don't call the stuff DOPE for nothing.

Originally Posted by LarryBible (Post 2950293)

It's a HUGE part of the decadance of our country. People dumbed down by any substance are often less than productive citizens. If they are productive they could be MORE productive without substances. Their morales go down the tube. Their alertness goes down the tube. And their brain gets fried by substances over time.

They don't call the stuff DOPE for nothing.

Originally Posted by spdrun (Post 2950298)

So long as they can support themselves without being on the dole, why is it their obligation to maximize their productivity for the good of the country? Should we ban people from taking a 6-month sabbatical or a vacation of more than a week? Labor is people`s OWN property, to be sold to employers or clients at will, NOT the property of the State.

Your rhetoric sounds a lot like the old Soviet rhetoric about parasites and slackers :) Are you a closet Commie by any chance?!

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Originally Posted by tbomachines (Post 2950300)

Tell that to all the professional white collar coke heads. From a neoliberal perspective, they are perfect citizens.

Originally Posted by LarryBible (Post 2950307)

The ones who are NOT at the very least owe their employers a non clouded brain day of work.

Originally Posted by LarryBible (Post 2950310)

NOT AT ALL. They are the same kind of slime balls, just a different substance.

Originally Posted by LarryBible (Post 2950307)

The problem with this logic is that some of them are taking our tax money and being supported by the government. The ones who are NOT at the very least owe their employers a non clouded brain day of work.

Originally Posted by dropnosky (Post 2950319)

The irony that I see here, is that most of the serious potheads that i knew or know are model businessmen. Usually holding down a pizza delivery job that dovetails nicely with their core interests, and growing and selling marijuana illegally providing themselves a decent income.

Originally Posted by dropnosky (Post 2950319)

The irony that I see here, is that most of the serious potheads that i knew or know are model businessmen. Usually holding down a pizza delivery job that dovetails nicely with their core interests, and growing and selling marijuana illegally providing themselves a decent income.

After that, time can be spent enjoying pizza and smoking pot while watching "Terminator" with the soundtrack from "Lost Highway" and looking for correlations.

I have absolutely no problem with these people's lifestyle, the are harming no one.

Originally Posted by tbomachines (Post 2950318)

Key of what I said is neoliberal perspective (which you often embrace), they pay their taxes, make money, and make big business run and support the domestic economy.

Originally Posted by LarryBible (Post 2950325)

Good for them. Too bad they are unable to set a better example for others!

Originally Posted by LarryBible (Post 2950324)

Wow, I had NO idea that we were talking about such stellar citizens and productive members of society!;)

Originally Posted by LarryBible (Post 2950296)

Even MORE revenue could be brought into our treasury with a productive society not all doped up.