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Botnst 07-13-2012 09:43 PM

While I'm on a roll.... BOIDS!
 
It's about flocking behavior. Probably many of you already know some of this. I hope some of you will know a lot more than me (won't take long).

Boids (Flocks, Herds, and Schools: a Distributed Behavioral Model)

The program demonstrates how very complex behavior can self-organize from a very simple set of rules.

I've been curious about why the brain can solve some problems with incredible ease and speed and some problems are terribly difficult. take for example, catching a baseball. With a bit of practice one can learn to catch a ball with almost no thought involved. If one were to describe the process with precision it would take several pages of mathematics, human perception, and human physiology to explain the mechanics of the process. Imagine trying to catch a baseball by solving a bunch of equations. That's how a computer would have to do it and the computer would have a hell of a time if you changed to pitching it a golfball then a beach ball. Much less juggling odd objects.

So I'm thinking about BOIDS as a model for human thought. We organize primitive rules regarding motion and mass and derive an approximation. Not from trig but from observed rules of behavior.

Generalizing, we organize our minds into classes like movement, color, mass, size. Not precise measurements but in relation to rules about those things. When we seek to solve a problem we look in our minds for analogous rules, probably several independent sets, and let them self-organize into models. the best model will have the most coherent flocking-like behavior.

What do you think?

Dudesky 07-13-2012 09:53 PM

This is flocking BS in my book, however in regard to the OP....

I have been diagnosed with 1960's BOIDS and have been trying to live out my few remaining years in a BOIDS recovery program and have been seeing positive results.

Both my parents were afflicted with BOIDS and paid a tragic price for limited research in this area.

Please help all inflicted with BOIDS.

Botnst 07-13-2012 11:08 PM

If Boids peckers don't work they are unhappy.

Dudesky 07-13-2012 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 2973076)
If Boids peckers don't work they are unhappy.

Boid you hit that one on the head....:D

tbomachines 07-13-2012 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 2973011)

So I'm thinking about BOIDS as a model for human thought. We organize primitive rules regarding motion and mass and derive an approximation. Not from trig but from observed rules of behavior.

Generalizing, we organize our minds into classes like movement, color, mass, size. Not precise measurements but in relation to rules about those things. When we seek to solve a problem we look in our minds for analogous rules, probably several independent sets, and let them self-organize into models. the best model will have the most coherent flocking-like behavior.

What do you think?

This pretty much sums up questions in the field of social psychiatry and a number of communication research areas.

Dudesky 07-14-2012 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by tbomachines (Post 2973094)
This pretty much sums up questions in the field of social psychiatry and a number of communication research areas.


You peeking? :D

Botnst 07-14-2012 12:02 AM

It's hard to have a truly original idea. It came as a revelation to me. Or my competing flocked-up models.

tbomachines 07-14-2012 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 2973097)
It's hard to have a truly original idea. It came as a revelation to me. Or my competing flocked-up models.

Nothing wrong with that, it's an interesting idea. I meant my comment to mean that there is a lot of research in the area if you are interested, maybe not particularly to the boids perspective but to address your broader interests on how the brain functions

Botnst 07-14-2012 12:43 AM

I didn't take it as criticism of me personally. The ideas new to me, which happens with depressing regularity. I figured somebody on this board would know something more than me. That too happens with depressing regularity. It's part of the ongoing education of the Botster.


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