Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > General Discussions > Off-Topic Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-29-2012, 10:00 PM
w123fanman's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 1,691
Feelings on gun collectors and hobbyists

So in the light of all of these gun control topics, what do you guys feel about gun collectors and hobbyists? I am a gun owner myself, but my uncle who gave me these guns (a cheap but accurate .22/.410 combo and a .50 cal muzzleloader) is a gun collector that lives in North Georgia (he is quite a bit country). He owns enough guns to arm a small militia. He probably has over 150 guns throughout his home which consist of rifles, pistols, revolvers, shotguns, and semiautomatic assault rifles. I do not think he owns any automatic weapons mainly because they are extremely expensive. He owns a large lot of land away from his house in a sparsely populated area that he uses as his shooting range. He goes and shoots his guns with family (which has included my brother, some of my friends, and I and another of my uncles who is extremely liberal but loves guns). He makes sure everyone has on the proper safety equipment before shooting starts (ear and eye protection), along with knowing all gun safety rules. He does not use bullets containing lead, and tries to pick up as much of the brass as he can before he leaves his shooting range so animals don't come in contact with it. As far as I know he has no criminal record and I know for a fact he is a pacifist but is not afraid to defend himself or his family and does carry a gun on him at all times (he has good reason to, as he works in a bad part of Atlanta). So what are your feelings on people like this? Should they miss out on what they like to do because some people don't agree with guns?

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-29-2012, 10:02 PM
Dubyagee's Avatar
All fields are required
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: SE
Posts: 8,722
Its a right. Have at it.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-29-2012, 10:06 PM
engatwork's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Soperton, Ga. USA
Posts: 13,667
Quote:
carry a gun on him at all times. So what are your feelings on people like this?
My feeling is that if he is carrying open he will have less chance of getting held up in the bad area of Atlanta.
__________________
Jim
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-29-2012, 10:07 PM
TheDon's Avatar
Ghost of Diesels Past
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 13,285
It is my right to own as many semi and fully automatic assault rifles in various calibers and vintages.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-29-2012, 10:26 PM
t walgamuth's Avatar
dieselarchitect
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Lafayette Indiana
Posts: 38,632
Sounds like my dad but with more money.
__________________
[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-29-2012, 10:38 PM
aklim's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Location: Greenfield WI, USA
Posts: 8,514
Quote:
Originally Posted by engatwork View Post
My feeling is that if he is carrying open he will have less chance of getting held up in the bad area of Atlanta.
Not sure I would carry open. Just from the fact that morons will panic and that if you wanted to do something, you are going to know I have a gun and be ready for it. I'd rather keep you guessing and not know so you cannot take precautions and get careless and give me an advantage you didn't know I had.
__________________
01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-29-2012, 10:43 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: NYC
Posts: 6,030
Not my hobby, but people should be able to collect what they want, so long as they don't use it to harm others. Actually HAVING a gun collection would make me feel less safe. I travel quite a bit, and I'd be worried that it would be stolen and used to hurt someone while I was away.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-29-2012, 10:52 PM
w123fanman's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 1,691
Quote:
Originally Posted by spdrun View Post
Not my hobby, but people should be able to collect what they want, so long as they don't use it to harm others. Actually HAVING a gun collection would make me feel less safe. I travel quite a bit, and I'd be worried that it would be stolen and used to hurt someone while I was away.
That is a good point. He has all of his guns locked up, doesn't stockpile ammo (any he has is not kept with the guns), lives off the road (since nowadays criminals are to lazy to walk too far), and has a pretty good security system on his house. He doesn't actually live in Atlanta but Ellijay so its a lot less criminals to break in up there.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-29-2012, 11:27 PM
tbomachines's Avatar
ಠ_ಠ
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,371
meh

__________________
TC
Current stable:
- 2004 Mazda RALLYWANKEL
- 2007 Saturn sky redline
- 2004 Explorer...under surgery.

Past: 135i, GTI, 300E, 300SD, 300SD, Stealth
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-30-2012, 07:56 AM
engatwork's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Soperton, Ga. USA
Posts: 13,667
I do enjoy lighting up the AK (semi auto of course) but the cheapness in me sees $ signs going out the barrel with every shot. I am of the opinion that it has got to be one of the best engineered guns out there. I can see why they get handed out as weapons against the government. Opps, did I say that, I meant to say purchased legally by civilians in Syria to use when they want to put the representation back into their taxation.

Wonder what kind of gun control Syria has?
__________________
Jim
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 07-30-2012, 08:36 AM
elchivito's Avatar
ĦAy Jodido!
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Rancho Disparates
Posts: 4,075
Quote:
Originally Posted by w123fanman View Post
So what are your feelings on people like this? Should they miss out on what they like to do because some people don't agree with guns?
Nope.
__________________
You're a daisy if you do.
__________________________________
84 Euro 240D 4spd. 220.5k sold
04 Honda Element AWD
1985 F150 XLT 4x4, 351W with 270k miles, hay hauler
1997 Suzuki Sidekick 4x4
1993 Toyota 4wd Pickup 226K and counting
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 07-30-2012, 10:22 AM
JB3 JB3 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: RI
Posts: 7,246
Quote:
Originally Posted by engatwork View Post
My feeling is that if he is carrying open he will have less chance of getting held up in the bad area of Atlanta.

I doubt it. In some circumstance, perhaps he would have less chance of getting held up, but he also brings with him a huge chance of getting the gun taken from him and used on him as well.

Not that I agree that anyone should be carrying a firearm, but if you are, it might as well be concealed carry, that way the gun itself is not a target.

It seems to me that concealed and open carry people have this miraculous notion that whomever is carrying the weapon at any time is completely aware of his surroundings, and will pretty much be ready for any situation that arises, which is unrealistic.

Far more likely that the awareness that they are carrying a gun will make them overconfident and cocky. They have a gun, so they know they will win any altercation, but chances are the awareness of that will make them vulnerable and less committed initially.

Chances are cocky gun owner would let someone get too close and assume that the gun would be a deterrent, which it may be for most people, but theres always that 1 percent, who are quick and committed. And then where are you?
__________________
This post brought to you by Carl's Jr.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 07-30-2012, 10:30 AM
Posting since Jan 2000
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 7,166
I don't shoot as much as I used to. Flying fills my spare time now.

I have no shortage of toys to do it with including plenty of firearms and reloading equipment.

Beyond sport shooting, we are in a situation in this country where the bad guys have no shortage of guns and no matter how many laws might be passed to make them illegal, the bad guys will always have them because they are perfectly willing to break the law.

For that reason, taking away the right for law abiding citizens to arm themselves for the purpose of self defense would result in only the bad guys having them. This would not be a pleasant thing for the law abiding citizens of this country.
__________________
2001 SLK 320 six speed manual
2014 Porsche Cayenne six speed manual

Annoy a Liberal, Read the Constitution
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 07-30-2012, 10:07 PM
Botnst's Avatar
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: There castle.
Posts: 44,601
I took my .22 WMR with the Paladin out for some shooting last weekend. Forgot to bring replacement batteries. Damn.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 07-31-2012, 07:14 AM
vwbuge's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Johnstown, Pennsylvania
Posts: 2,116
All gun owners should be like him. However, if at some point he would seek psychiatric help for whatever reason, he should surrender such guns.

__________________
'85 300SD (formerly california emissions)
'08 Chevy Tahoe
'93 Ducati 900 SS
'79 Kawasaki KZ 650
'86 Kawasaki KX 250
'88 Kawasaki KDX200
'71 Hodaka Ace 100
'72 Triumph T100R
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:40 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page