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Old 08-06-2012, 04:56 PM
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Innovative thinking in regards to hybrids

Pretty neat design for making a little more hp and torque. Looks like it could be built as a pretty simple "bolt on" kit.

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Old 08-06-2012, 05:04 PM
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I always liked the Norton/Matchless hybrids of the 60s. Oh wait.......
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Looks promising. It was installed on a front wheel drive car with rear drums?
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Old 08-06-2012, 05:17 PM
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It is a neat layout that once you see it wonder why the idea had not already been thought of.
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Old 08-06-2012, 05:58 PM
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Very interesting. How does it work? Gasoline engine overcomes the initial inertia from a stop and then the electric keeps it going at slow speeds?
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Old 08-06-2012, 06:02 PM
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It is a neat layout that once you see it wonder why the idea had not already been thought of.
They aren't the first group to think of it. The idea's been floating around for a while. Glad to see it getting some press. It's obvious to anyone who has ever seen a brushless motor.

Same with the Lutz / Leno company thing. Was a little bit surprised to see Bob Lutz involved but it looks like they've got it working. Now to get the cost down.
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Old 08-06-2012, 06:12 PM
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Impressive

IF,it makes it into production(Bye,Bye "Volt",etc.)
Hopefully the contractor will "Weaponize" it.
[attempt to make it Impervious to Average Consumer Stupidity]

Yeah,What other Great Simple Engineering Systems are lying hidden awaiting discovery ?
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Old 08-06-2012, 06:25 PM
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Very interesting. How does it work? Gasoline engine overcomes the initial inertia from a stop and then the electric keeps it going at slow speeds?
Simple description: It's just a brushless motor with the magnets stuck to the wheel, and the armature (many phases) fixed to the axle. Some batteries, and an electronic controller. The controller is capable of varying power in both forward and reverse.

When going forward, and extra power is needed, the motor controller electronics apply power phased in forward rotation, relative to wheelspeed. When braking is needed, the phasing is "reversed" WRT wheelspeed, resulting in current flowing in reverse direction (charging). Power is routed to charging circuitry, charge is accumulated in batteries and or supercaps.
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Old 08-07-2012, 06:30 AM
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it looks as if all that will weigh at least ten pounds per wheel. The compromise in ride and handling would be pretty significant and would rule it out for me probably.

Other than that it looks like a great concept in many ways.
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K.I.S.S. Keep it simple, stupid. This is a very simple design that should easily be able to be mass produced as bolt on for pretty cheap. I like it...
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it looks as if all that will weigh at least ten pounds per wheel. The compromise in ride and handling would be pretty significant and would rule it out for me probably.

Other than that it looks like a great concept in many ways.

Valid concern but most cars with rear drum brakes are going to have a multi hundred pound solid rear axle anyway.
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:27 AM
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it looks as if all that will weigh at least ten pounds per wheel. The compromise in ride and handling would be pretty significant and would rule it out for me probably.

Other than that it looks like a great concept in many ways.
You could consider a similar system that is placed between the transmission and differential.
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Neat idea, but its been around for awhile.
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quote"the school is in discussions with an unnamed industial partner-that makes electric motors for GM and other automakers.sounds like delphi. soooo i don't see it seeing the light of day on a production car.

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