Reasoning that conservatism holds the highest respect for individual liberties and eschews government interference in the private lives of consenting adults, a Nevada delegate to the Republican platform conference proposes an end to the party's position on gay marriage. Silly HIM.

On Tuesday, Pat Kerby, a Republican delegate from Nevada, offered an amendment to the Republican Party's platform draft that would have ended the party's support for the Defense of Marriage Act and put in its place a strong defense of individual liberties.

LGBT Advocates Take Aim At Polygamy, Drug Use Comments

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Silly indeed. And what drove folks like myself away from the party. I no longer (and haven't for some time) consider myself a "conservative" Republican but rather a libertarian. Political definitions continue to evolve, or devolve depending upon one's view. "Conservative" now barely resembles "conservative" from my high school/college years. (And in CT, that was me rebelling against my parents and society. )

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Folks, you need to get a grip. A precinct, or county chair proposing a platform change is NOT presenting his/her own personal viewpoint. This proposal has been developed by the people in the precinct/county/state. The person presenting the proposal is nothing more than the messenger.

Regardless of what that person submits, if the majority of people in the party don't agree with it, it will not be passed. For you libby/commy's that prefer dictatorship, this is probably a surprise to you, but this is called the democratic process.

BTW, like Swamp, I am NOT a Republican. I AM, however, a conservative. No one gets more worn out by the Republican party than me. Unfortunately, that is the only viable alternative for me as a conservative. If the libertarian party ever grows to a point of having a CHANCE of winning office, I will most likely be voting libertarian. If another so called third party ever grows large enough to have a chance at winning office, I will consider them closely.

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So then you'll not be bothered by true libertarians' positions on legalization of drugs, and that we have no business supporting other governments, Israel for example.

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The party (or any party) is free to take whatever position it wants on whatever issue it wishes and I don't begrudge them for it. But on the other side of it, if I don't agree with that position(s), I can choose not to support the party. That's not to say I won't vote for individual candidates from that party, just that I don't support the party's position.

Unfortunately you are correct, I don't have a viable choice with a shot at winning. But at some point along the way I decided I would cast my votes based on my own principals. And as cynical as I am I figure I lose whether candidate "A" or "B" wins anyway, so why not vote with my conscience while preparing for the inevitable outcome. If the two parties keep going the way they are going, the outcome may very well be up for grabs in future elections.

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I totally understand your position. It is terrible that I have to hold my nose in the voting boothe, but I feel that I have to vote against the greater of two evils. Voting third party when that party has no chance of winning, to me, is throwing away my vote. I am NOT voting for a particular party, rather trying to keep the worst candidate at bay.

I understand perfectly what has driven you to your stance, and I respect it. I could just as easily take the same route. At least you're not voting for the worst of the two evils.

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NYT: Defined by Words, Not Disease

Here's what can happen, although rarely, when voices in the party are allowed to eloquently present a differing point of view.

Norman Mailer, the literary tough guy who was covering the convention for The New Republic, was awed by the “Republican princess” and the magnitude of her appeal. “When Mary Fisher spoke like an angel that night,” he wrote, “the floor was in tears, and conceivably the nation as well.”

The Speech, as it is called by Ms. Fisher’s friends and family, turned her into a global figure. Long before YouTube, Facebook and Twitter, the speech reverberated because it was heard simultaneously and in its entirety by 27 million people; the prime-time address was broadcast live by ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC and PBS. (The week before her appearance in Houston, she appeared in The New York Times, on the cover of Sunday Styles.)

It was one for the history books as well. Called “A Whisper of AIDS,” the speech is included in “Words of a Century: The Top 100 American Speeches, 1900-1999,” along with other landmark addresses like “I Have a Dream” by the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., “The Four Freedoms” by Franklin D. Roosevelt and “A Tale of Two Cities” by Mario Cuomo.

G--D---n it Larry. I am sick of you calling anyone to the left of you names! It is ridiculous. I doubt there is a single communist here and nobody who prefers a dictatorship. Your side lost the last election and it is high time you got over it.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

But they haven't gotten over it, not since early on when that old fogey corn farmer senator said the Republicans' first priority must be to make Obama a one term president. Who was that? Grassley? Grassy? That's been their be-all and end-all ever since. They simply cannot abide an apparently black man with an Ivy League education that he earned through scholarships and loans rather than the UpperCrust approved family-name-gets-you-in method who has a "foreign" and god-forbid scarey MOHAMMEDAN name being president.

I think it's cute how they all demur now claiming to be libertarians or something OTHER than Republicans.

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Well, some of us actually are. It's been 20 years since I bailed on the GOP.

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Counts. It's been at least that long and probably longer since there was a real conservative in that party. I used to vote for as many Republicans as Dems a long time ago, before Reagan. I only registered Democrat as a personal anti-neocon statement in 2000.

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Touched a nerve, eh?



Larry is right on, and the economy will continue to get worse until we vote the commie pinko and his minions out of office.

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He was calling me a commie pinko and all the people here who are to the left of him....not the president.

I really don't care what he calls the president.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

This attitude is the whole reason third parties remain nonviable. If you want a third party to grow, vote for that party!

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And " anybody but............" will really get the job done