Democrats Screwing Each Other
 

The democrats clearly are screwing each other, so how could anyone expect them to NOT screw the general public?


In the video it is CLEAR that the yea's and nay's were very equal, but the chairman selected HIS choice instead of ensuring the required 2/3 in the affirmative.

Reinstating Jerusalem, "God" language met with boos at DNC - CBS News Video

How can anyone trust a party that is perfectly willing to screw their fellow members?

Ron Paul

LOL

Are you sure that was not something shown on Comedy Central?

And to think that probably goes on with the R's too.

The fix was in.
They were going to look bad either way in regard to the words left in or out.
Someone dropped the ball with this issue. They just weren't thinking about the politics involved.

David,

Forget about the issue that was being voted on. That was not the point I was making.

The point is that there was CLEARLY not a 2/3 majority to confirm the ammendment, but it was confirmed anyway. The person making the decision to confirm did it based on what he wanted, NOT based on the desire of the delegates.

If they are willing to SCREW their own delegates, then how can they be trusted to be fair with the general public?

No, I got your point, but I think the decision was made backstage. Prior to the vote. The party bosses made the decision after seeing all the bad press about the issue. They realized that they screwed up and were determined to fix it. It was the delegates that didn't "get it" that caused the awkward moment for the chairman.

As far as treating the general public, remember that the platform is just a guideline put forth by the DNC and voted on by the delegates.

The candidate is not required to use it verbatim. He can pick and choose what he uses. There's always items in both party's platforms that cause consternation by the candidate. Romney doesn't agree with the RNC abortion policy, so he ignores it. Same here with this issue and the DNC.

What's laughable is the fact that they didn't have the courage to stick to their original words due to media coverage and public criticism.

It is rare when the democrats tell the public what their agenda really is. But they quickly recovered and hid it again.

You ever heard of that guy Ron Paul? What happened to him at the RNC??

How many delegates did Ron Paul have?
Were the rules changed to prevent him from speaking, or were the rules simply applied?

The GOP passed some sort of rule change that was opposed by the Paul delegates. John Boehner was at the podium when the voice vote was taken. The voice vote sounded equal to me but Boehner said the "ayes have it." I don't know whether that resolution was determined by a simple majority or a 2/3's majority which was the standard for yesterday's vote at the DNC. The funny thing about the DNC vote is that the voice vote didn't sound equal. The "nays" sounded louder than the "ayes," and yet the people controlling the process said the "ayes" had it, by 2/3s no less.

These conventions really are silly. On the other hand, the three speeches I have taken the time to watch at the DNC - Michelle Obama, Duval Patrick, and Bill Clinton - were three of the best speeches I have seen in a long time. I particularly liked the parts where Patrick and Clinton listed Obama's successes. Democrats who are disappointed in Obama's performance as President have lost touch with reality, IMHO. He has been highly effective under difficult circumstances.

I'm still must not be making my point clear David.

It's not about the particular amendment they voted on. It's not about whether or not a candidate or party member goes along or applies that part of the platform or not..

My point is that the person listening to the verbal voting IGNORED what he heard and confirmed the amendment anyway even though it clearly did not get the required 2/3 majority for confirmation.

He screwed the people who were against confirmation by confirming even though it did NOT recieve the required 2/3 majority. He SCREWED many of his OWN party members by violating the party rules and doing as he pleased instead of honoring the voting of the group.

OF COURSE they were the best speaches you've heard. They are YOUR guys!

Paul had met the required number of delegates for a stump speech. The rules were changed. RNC has been rigging this process against Paul since the 2008 race using. After 2008, Paul supporters began work on getting delegates on local party committees. This year, Paul had some (enough) support to at least speak at the convention; which, the RNC successfully quashed. Best democracy money can buy.

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