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Old 09-22-2012, 01:08 PM
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Mitt's Tin Ear

First, Peggy Noonan, a conservative columnist I enjoy reading in the WSJ, said Romney's campaign was "a rolling calamity". Now in her most recent column she says Romney has "a tin ear".
This transcript from his interview on today's 60 minutes pretty well proves it.

Scott Pelley: You are slipping in the polls at this moment. A lot of Republicans are concerned about this campaign. You bill yourself as a turnaround artist. How are you going to turn this campaign around?

Mitt Romney: Well, actually, we're tied in the polls. We're all within the margin of error. We bounce aroun -- week to week-- day to day. There are some days we're up. There are some days we're down. We go forward with my message, that this is a time to reinvigorate the American economy, not by expanding government and raising taxes on people, but instead by making sure government encourages entrepreneurship and innovation and gets the private sector hiring again.

Scott Pelley: Governor, I appreciate your message very much. But that wasn't precisely the question. You're the CEO of this campaign. A lot of Republicans would like to know, a lot of your donors would like to know, how do you turn this thing around? You've got a little more than six weeks. What do you do?

Mitt Romney: Well, it doesn't need a turnaround. We've got a campaign which is tied with an incumbent president to the United States.

Scott Pelley: Well-- as you know, a lot of people were concerned about the video of the fundraiser in which you talked about the 47 percent of the American people who don't pay taxes. Peggy Noonan, a very well-known conservative columnist, said that it was an example of this campaign being incompetent. And I wonder if any of that criticism gets through to you and whether you're concerned about it at all, whether--

Mitt Romney: Well, that's not--

Scott Pelley: --the concerns of Republicans--

Mitt Romney: That's not...that's not the campaign. That was me, right? I-- that's not a campaign.

Scott Pelley: You are the campaign--

Mitt Romney: I've got a very effective campaign. It's doing a very good job. But not everything I say is elegant. And I want to make it very clear, I want to help 100 percent of the American people.


Romney: My campaign doesn't need a turnaround - CBS News

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Etch a Sketch, reintroduce, reboot . . . is this candidate ever who he says he is?
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Etch a Sketch, reintroduce, reboot . . . is this candidate ever who he says he is?
He'll be anything you want him to be; if it gets him elected. What he'd be after that is also up for bids.
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Old 09-22-2012, 08:53 PM
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He'll be anything you want him to be; if it gets him elected. What he'd be after that is also up for bids.
Sadly, it will not get him elected. He has two planks in his platform.............no abortions and "Obama is bad."

Without any vision and without any clear path with some explanations of what he will do about the economy and the deficit, he won't garner sufficient votes with such a simple platform.

He has a chance to do well in the debates if he can finally come up with a program. But, I don't see that happening.
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First, Peggy Noonan, a conservative columnist I enjoy reading in the WSJ, said Romney's campaign was "a rolling calamity". Now in her most recent column she says Romney has "a tin ear".
This transcript from his interview on today's 60 minutes pretty well proves it.

Scott Pelley: You are slipping in the polls at this moment. A lot of Republicans are concerned about this campaign. You bill yourself as a turnaround artist. How are you going to turn this campaign around?

Mitt Romney: Well, actually, we're tied in the polls. We're all within the margin of error. We bounce aroun -- week to week-- day to day. There are some days we're up. There are some days we're down. We go forward with my message, that this is a time to reinvigorate the American economy, not by expanding government and raising taxes on people, but instead by making sure government encourages entrepreneurship and innovation and gets the private sector hiring again.

Scott Pelley: Governor, I appreciate your message very much. But that wasn't precisely the question. You're the CEO of this campaign. A lot of Republicans would like to know, a lot of your donors would like to know, how do you turn this thing around? You've got a little more than six weeks. What do you do?

Mitt Romney: Well, it doesn't need a turnaround. We've got a campaign which is tied with an incumbent president to the United States.

Scott Pelley: Well-- as you know, a lot of people were concerned about the video of the fundraiser in which you talked about the 47 percent of the American people who don't pay taxes. Peggy Noonan, a very well-known conservative columnist, said that it was an example of this campaign being incompetent. And I wonder if any of that criticism gets through to you and whether you're concerned about it at all, whether--

Mitt Romney: Well, that's not--

Scott Pelley: --the concerns of Republicans--

Mitt Romney: That's not...that's not the campaign. That was me, right? I-- that's not a campaign.

Scott Pelley: You are the campaign--

Mitt Romney: I've got a very effective campaign. It's doing a very good job. But not everything I say is elegant. And I want to make it very clear, I want to help 100 percent of the American people.


Romney: My campaign doesn't need a turnaround - CBS News
So I guess its over then, your Hero will reTransform Amerika.
How was Carter doing poll wise about this time?
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So I guess its over then, your Hero will reTransform Amerika.
How was Carter doing poll wise about this time?
Let's see . . . Carter was a president with a sub-30 approval rating going into and during the 1980 campaign. What's Obama's current rating?

A September 15, 1980 poll by Time magazine had both candidates at 39%.

http://cgi.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1996/analysis/back.time/9609/15/
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Let's see . . . Carter was a president with a sub-30 approval rating going into and during the 1980 campaign. What's Obama's current rating?

A September 15, 1980 poll by Time magazine had both candidates at 39%.

AllPolitics - Back in TIME for September 15, 1980

And the outcome?

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And the outcome?

Never count your chickens
Poultry census taking can be a tricky undertaking, but are you suggesting that Mr. Romney is a Reagan-esque candidate, or that President Obama is Carter-esque? I'd love to hear your arguments for either proposition.
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Poultry census taking can be a tricky undertaking, but are you suggesting that Mr. Romney is a Reagan-esque candidate, or that President Obama is Carter-esque? I'd love to hear your arguments for either proposition.
I'm suggesting that the polling does not reflect the will of the American voter with any real degree of accuracy.
Ask Jimmy Carter.
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Poultry census taking can be a tricky undertaking, but are you suggesting that Mr. Romney is a Reagan-esque candidate, or that President Obama is Carter-esque? I'd love to hear your arguments for either proposition.
Take away Reagan and Carter and modern Republicans lose about half of their material.
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I'm suggesting that the polling does not reflect the will of the American voter with any real degree of accuracy.
Ask Jimmy Carter.
Jaysus Jumping Jack Frost, enough with Carter already. I voted for Ford. Carter was an anomaly. Thank Nixon for his over-wide-grinning ass
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I'm suggesting that the polling does not reflect the will of the American voter with any real degree of accuracy.
Ask Jimmy Carter.
You mean like the last elections since 1980?
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Old 09-23-2012, 12:44 PM
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I think the elephant in the room, that even P. Noonan and Mitt's many other conservative detractors just can't bring themselves to say, is .....wait....

He's Mormon.
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Mormon, schmorman . . . it's not religion, it's trust.
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I doubt that most prospective voters, except for the most degenerate of the bible-belters, know enough about the Mormon religion to give it much weight in their candidate evaluation.
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You mean like the last elections since 1980?
Apathy until your crowd awoke the sleeping giant and had a Tea Party.

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