Really? That's not clear to me at all.Absolutely correct. You disagree with that?"otherwise intelligent" :P

To answer your question, an otherwise intelligent person would say that because it is true.I agree with that interpretation.That's fine. I just don't see the video being much an analogy to the stench thing.

:confused: Geez.

No, but this particular delusion that you ascribe to Obama - that it's government that builds businesses - would only be held by someone who completely misunderstands what American life is all about. It seems odd that someone who so completely misses the point would be able to connect with the voters the way Obama has.It's always such a pleasure to converse with you.

I do not disagree with Obama's overall point.

However, it is not obvious to me that he is talking solely about infrastructure because of the statement "If you've got a business--you didn't build that".

He could have said, "If you've got a business, the invested infrastructure helped you to build that".

But, he didn't. His choice of words is telling as to the way he thinks and I am of the firm belief that he was not referring to roads and bridges when he made the statement. He believes that entire community deserves the credit for the work that an individual put in to build a business and he wants a big chunk of it.

Isn't this obvious to you?

If you changed "the credit" to "some credit" then I might agree with your interpretation, depending on how you define "big."

If "big" means that we return to something like the policies of the 1990s, then I agree. If you suggest that Obama would want to go beyond that, then I disagree and would ask for something to substantiate your interpretation.

I don't wish to parse words with you.

Fundamentally, Obama wants more of what a small business owner has created. He justifies this by arguing that the business owner didn't build the business by himself. In reality, the small business owner did build the business by himself and paid taxes for the roads and the schools just like everybody else who did not build the business by themselves. His argument is fundamentally flawed.

In fact, that small business owner surely paid 10X the taxes of folks who did not build the business and take the risk. Obama belittles their accomplishment and attempts to justify his behavior by making a statement that is grossly unfair.

I have no idea how much Obama would take from this small business person, but I'm sure it would be significant if he had his way.

The clip is funny because any person other than yourself understands Obama's implication. You have managed to defend Obama by associating his statement with "roads and bridges" which is not who the man actually is.

Obama has never said anything inconsistent with that.That's silly. Your interpretation might be correct, but I am not the only person who disagrees with you on this.

THE SENTENCE STANDS ALONE!!!!!!!! Even when read IN that entire paragraph, it is VERY clear, that is to those of us who are not afflicted with the BLIND ZEALOUSNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is the most mysterious question of all!!!!!!!!!:eek: The answer is in the blind zealousness of you all.

It's sad that you don't see the man through his words and deeds.



Well, if I'm silly, I've got a lot of company.

BTW, I don't see a lot of support on the forum for your position on this. But, maybe the forum is not representative of society at large and I'm sure you can get some Obama ideologues to chime in for you.

Not much is clear to you so let's see the presidents own words in that same CAMPAIGN EVENT SPEECH. He is speaking to his own audience at a campaign event- do you believe there are more small business owners there or non business owners? Do you believe he is talking to people that want lower taxes on business?


Let's look at previous talking points of that same speech:

" There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me -- because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t -- look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. "

Does this comment have anything to do with the building of bridges? No- it has to do with the redistribution of wealth message.

"The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. "

More of the same idea- the business owner did not build the business(him or herself). The roads and the bridges had about as much to do with the success of the business as the failure of any given business.

You show the blind faith of a LWNJ.

I ascribe no such view of BHO's particular delusion nor have I said I do. I believe individuals efforts build businesses- so it's quite the opposite of what you believe I think. I ought to know more about that than you since you are speaking of MY VIEW.

Take a look at the bold type.

He started a sentence and then stopped because he realized he'd be crucified if he finished it.

My bet is that the entire sentence would have went as follows"

"They know they didn't build it on their own."


But, he stopped and qualified it to say that "you didn't get there on your own".


His meaning is perfectly clear to anyone who isn't blind.

It's very simple.........

The root of 0bama's message is simply hate the rich. Straight out of Marx..........