Cop breaks 84 Yr Old WWII Veteran's neck for touching him. - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

HuskyMan · #1 10-05-2012, 11:46 PM

Cop Breaks 84 Yr Old's Neck For Touching Him - YouTube

spdrun · #2 10-06-2012, 12:22 AM

Pig needs his neck snapped, courtesy of a stout rope tied to a convenient bridge railing.

cmac2012 · #3 10-06-2012, 04:59 AM

Holy crap, they're charging the old guy with battery. One hopes the cop loses his job at the very least.

HuskyMan · #4 10-06-2012, 01:29 PM

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Holy crap, they're charging the old guy with battery. One hopes the cop loses his job at the very least.

don't count on it; in most cases the cop is placed on administrative leave. They merely wait for the public outrage to die down, then quietly restore officer friendly to active duty.

I see two lessons in this story. One, when bar hopping, best to take either a taxi cab or share a limo with friends. Nowadays, the cops literally stake out a bar and wait for closing time. Upon closing, they circle like sharks and EVERYBODY gets a DUI breathalyzer. A decent DUI attorney is going to run from $5K to $10K at a minimum and there is no guarantee that you won't lose your driver's license. All of a sudden, that taxi cab fare looks very inexpensive.

Lesson number two; don't ever ever touch a cop. They have a license to either taze or shoot you, but you can't touch them for any reason. If they feel their life is being threatened (and all they have to do is say that you were threatening them) they are allowed to use deadly force. If a cop ever says, "I am in fear for my life", you best start running as fast as you can because he is going to ventilate you. After you receive one in the head and two in the chest, he is rewarded by receiving a paid vacation known as "administrative leave".

The system is working.

spdrun · #5 10-06-2012, 01:37 PM

This is old news. The pig lost a lawsuit for almost $900k over this, and apparently he was held PERSONALLY liable. Hope the donut-munching porkmuffin ends up bankrupt, foreclosed, and out on the street -- the old man should have a chance to throw a steel washer in his cup when he's begging on the street. Or maybe Officer Lamout will take the honorable way out with his service pistol.

Sometimes, the system does work:

Orlando Police Officer found Liable in Excessive Force Trial - Attorney Jason Recksiedler in the News

HuskyMan · #6 10-06-2012, 01:48 PM

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This is old news. The pig lost a lawsuit for almost $900k over this, and apparently he was held PERSONALLY liable. Hope the donut-munching porkmuffin ends up bankrupt, foreclosed, and out on the street -- the old man should have a chance to throw a steel washer in his cup when he's begging on the street.

Sometimes, the system does work:

Orlando Police Officer found Liable in Excessive Force Trial - Attorney Jason Recksiedler in the News

in this instance, the victim was not killed and therefore able to file suit. Good for him. Something tells me the taxpayers may have to pay this particular judgment. They shouldn't though, he should have to stand surety for his own screw ups.

spdrun · #7 10-06-2012, 01:55 PM

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in this instance, the victim was not killed and therefore able to file suit. Good for him. Something tells me the taxpayers may have to pay this particular judgment. They shouldn't though, he should have to stand surety for his own screw ups.

Strip him of his assets, garnish his futire wages, then let the taxpayers pick up the remainder. I'd argue that the city is a bit responsible, for hiring a scumbag as a cop (from what I heard, steriods/roid-rage may also have been involved.)

HuskyMan · #8 10-06-2012, 02:01 PM

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Strip him of his assets, garnish his futire wages, then let the taxpayers pick up the remainder. I'd argue that the city is a bit responsible, for hiring a scumbag as a cop (from what I heard, steriods/roid-rage may also have been involved.)

kinda sad, unfortunately there have been a few similar to this incident involving Veterans suffering from severe post traumatic stress who became cops. At the wrong moment, they snapped. I don't blame them, I blame the government who failed to provide proper counseling upon discharge from the armed services. In addition, the police departments need to up their game when it comes to pre-employment psychological and drug screening of applicants.

spdrun · #9 10-06-2012, 02:09 PM

If he was juicing on 'roids, that was his choice, and he should be responsible for his actions and their consequences. This wasn't a case of PTSD. This was a case of wanton violence and gross stupidity.

Cops and military should be seperate entities with different hiring tracks, and ex-military should not be granted favoritism when police depts are hiring. Protecting the public and killing enemies of the US are two VERY different tasks, though we seem to have gotten them confused sometime in the 90ies.

aklim · #10 10-06-2012, 02:25 PM

Unless it was a kid, that man should know better than to grab, punch, touch, or have any physical contact with a com in the performance of his duty. If my wife or myself had done the same, well, we got what we deserved so I guess I'm going to say that regardless of his age or veteran status, he did something he should know better and got what he deserved.

spdrun · #11 10-06-2012, 02:35 PM

Fortunately, the cop also got what he deserved. If he has a good bod due to his steroid use, maybe he'll find work as a man whore. While steroids reduce ability, he won't need any to take it from behind

A nice case of AIDS or Hep C would be karmic justice.

HuskyMan · #12 10-06-2012, 02:43 PM

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If he was juicing on 'roids, that was his choice, and he should be responsible for his actions and their consequences. This wasn't a case of PTSD. This was a case of wanton violence and gross stupidity.

Cops and military should be seperate entities with different hiring tracks, and ex-military should not be granted favoritism when police depts are hiring. Protecting the public and killing enemies of the US are two VERY different tasks, though we seem to have gotten them confused sometime in the 90ies.

forty years ago, the police cars said, "To Protect and To Serve". No more, the new motto: "To Harass and to Intimidate". All they had to do was go into the bar and ask the bar tender to ask the patrons who belonged to that car? But.......that would have been to easy, right? Much more fun to call your buddies at the towing company and then stand out front knowing the owner will come out fuming.

These posts from youtube about sum it up....

All issues of brutality aside: if you feel threatened by an 84-yr old man while being equipped as an American cop would be, then you are a punk *****.

thelocalslant 2 weeks ago 24
I bet when he put his life on the line for his country against the nazis he dreamt of coming home one day and being dumped on his head by another nazi and then getting charged for a felony.

cardigan3000 1 day ago

cullennewsom · #13 10-06-2012, 03:06 PM

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in this instance, the victim was not killed and therefore able to file suit. Good for him. Something tells me the taxpayers may have to pay this particular judgment. They shouldn't though, he should have to stand surety for his own screw ups.

The punitive award is the feedback that the city needed to implement better quality standards for their officers.

cullennewsom · #14 10-06-2012, 03:11 PM

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Unless it was a kid, that man should know better than to grab, punch, touch, or have any physical contact with a com in the performance of his duty. If my wife or myself had done the same, well, we got what we deserved so I guess I'm going to say that regardless of his age or veteran status, he did something he should know better and got what he deserved.

Even a belligerent old drunk who wasn't a war vet does not deserve to get suplexed by a police officer. I'd be less sympathetic if he'd picked a fight with another drunk patron. Police OTOH, are supposed to be trained professionals. I see no professionalism in dumping an 82 yr old drunk on his head and breaking his neck.

aklim · #15 10-06-2012, 07:06 PM

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Even a belligerent old drunk who wasn't a war vet does not deserve to get suplexed by a police officer. I'd be less sympathetic if he'd picked a fight with another drunk patron.

Police OTOH, are supposed to be trained professionals. I see no professionalism in dumping an 82 yr old drunk on his head and breaking his neck.

If he made the first move, I'd have to disagree with you. Had you said the cop yanked him out of the car with no provocation, I'd agree with that. Since he did lay the first hand, I can't have any more sympathy for him than if the cop did that to my wife who laid the first hand.

They are not supposed to be your judo target. If at the moment, the cop tried to subdue him from his rage induced drama and something happens, I side with the cop. If after subduing the perp, he goes on to do other things, that becomes another story. I have seen people in self defense classes get hurt from throwing or even pushing someone aside so I do realize that it is very easy for any of these moves to go astray and cause some hurt