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Old 11-16-2012, 07:53 AM
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Does anyone know where someone could rent tools that one would have little likelihood of needing more than very occasionally?

A friend needs a flanger for some patches he needs to make on some auto sheet metal.

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Old 11-16-2012, 08:29 AM
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May be someone who is on the forum tool rental program can help.

Otherwise I'd go and find some plywood off cuts and cut a step of the required depth into it with a router - or do it the old way with a chisel - and then shape the flange with a hammer. This method works best for a part off of the car!

If you need to flange "on the car" then make two plywood hammer forms with a step in them and then use a step on either side of the sheet metal with a G-clamp to start the shape you need.

You'll have trouble getting crisp straight shapes in mild steel thicker than 1mm though...

...crisper shapes will happen with a harder (steel) former - like the dies of a flanger...
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Do you mean for making a lip for mating sheet metal panels? If that's what you need I can look through my Dad's tools. I think he had one.

That said, do you have a MIG welder? I prefer to mate sheet metal with a butt joint. Fit it well with about 1/64" to 1/32" gap all around. Get it flush and MIG a tack using shielding gas, NOT flux core. Bounce around spreading the tacks all over to prevent warping. Keep filling in between the tacks until it is solid weld, then grind it flush. The beauty of the MIG welder for this purpose is that you can weld over weld without chipping slag or otherwise cleaning.

Let me know if you need the tool I describe. I will be at my Mom's house Thanksgiving and I can look through my Dad's stuff for the tool.
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:01 AM
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Do you mean for making a lip for mating sheet metal panels? If that's what you need I can look through my Dad's tools. I think he had one.

That said, do you have a MIG welder? I prefer to mate sheet metal with a butt joint. Fit it well with about 1/64" to 1/32" gap all around. Get it flush and MIG a tack using shielding gas, NOT flux core. Bounce around spreading the tacks all over to prevent warping. Keep filling in between the tacks until it is solid weld, then grind it flush. The beauty of the MIG welder for this purpose is that you can weld over weld without chipping slag or otherwise cleaning.

Let me know if you need the tool I describe. I will be at my Mom's house Thanksgiving and I can look through my Dad's stuff for the tool.
Thanks, Larry. I will get back to you; that is precisely the tool, and the technique. My friend has a wire-feed welder and uses the shielding gas, but maybe not the skill for butt welds.
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Thanks, Larry. I will get back to you; that is precisely the tool, and the technique. My friend has a wire-feed welder and uses the shielding gas, but maybe not the skill for butt welds.

There's very little skill involved to do what I describe. There is more skill involved in fitting the replacement piece than the required welding skill. Since it's a tack, just look at the table inside the welders wire compartment cover. Pick the sheet metal thickness used and set up the welder that way. Then burn just enough of a tack to penetrate to the back side.

You can use magnets or long necked channel lock clamps, C clamps or whatever to get the metal in place for the first few tacks.

I will look for the tool.
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This is not a real good Youtube of the process, but it will give you the idea.

Karmann Ghia sheet metal patch - YouTube
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a pair of flanging vice grip pliers is only around $25
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There is a very cheap one for use with air tools like the chisel driver impact type of tool. I forget the technical name of that air tool at the moment.
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MS,

I apologize for the delay in the response. I looked through my Dad's stuff Thanksgiving and couldn't find the tool. I thought I might have already brought it home, but if I did I can't find it.

After Thanksgiving and all the things that went on while I was off for the holidays, I forgot to respond.

Sorry for the delay and sorry I couldn't find it.

If I stumble upon it, I'll let you know.

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