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Old 01-24-2013, 12:48 PM
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In your last sentence, you prove once again that you will take no rresponsibility for your actions..
Yes, I do.
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all you have done is accuse me...
I have accused you rightfully for what you have done on this forum.
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Why the Holier than thou complex?
Why?...well because you are a hypocrite..thats why.
Excuse me?

I make no bones about what I believe and what I stand for. You on the other hand evidently stand for nothing known, make drive by insults, defend Islam, and then accuse others of being harsh.

I think your lack of consistency shows you for who you are....

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Old 01-24-2013, 01:49 PM
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Lots of people follow rules without a boogie man to tell you to do it
An some actually look at the rule to determine if it is indeed moral before following it like a sheep. In Larry World questioning authority is not needed. The law is the law and needs to be followed.
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An some actually look at the rule to determine if it is indeed moral before following it like a sheep. In Larry World questioning authority is not needed. The law is the law and needs to be followed.

Either you have not read all my posts in this thread or you are trying to con me for donations toward your remedial reading classes like JB3 has been doing today.
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Well, if you are trying to make everyone disbelieve you, yes. If you'd rather people believe you or give you more credibility, probably not. If we allowed everybody to steal at will, we have chaos. I don't have to link it to someone telling me.

So you are saying that at no time in your life were you ever told or taught to tell the truth? I have never seen any evidence that you don't tell the truth, so someone must have taught you to tell the truth.

I have never seen any evidence that you steal. Were you not told or taught not to steal?
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Old 01-24-2013, 03:14 PM
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So you are saying that at no time in your life were you ever told or taught to tell the truth? I have never seen any evidence that you don't tell the truth, so someone must have taught you to tell the truth.

I have never seen any evidence that you steal. Were you not told or taught not to steal?
Do you have to be told something to do it?
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Old 01-24-2013, 04:13 PM
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Either you have not read all my posts in this thread or you are trying to con me for donations toward your remedial reading classes like JB3 has been doing today.
Yea. Ive read them as have most of the others here. Im not the only one who catches you in lies, half truths and illogical arguments. I know it is easier to say everyone else is wlong as opposed to admitting your own faults.
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Old 01-24-2013, 07:35 PM
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So you are saying that at no time in your life were you ever told or taught to tell the truth? I have never seen any evidence that you don't tell the truth, so someone must have taught you to tell the truth.

I have never seen any evidence that you steal. Were you not told or taught not to steal?
No, yes, and yes. But what is your point? Stealing or whatever the crime puts me in difficulty. As I understand it, society cannot function if it is lawless. Therefore, we cannot steal, kill, etc, etc. Rules were laid down to prevent chaos. This was never explained to me. I reasoned it out myself. I don't go off "Mom, Dad, Teacher, Uncle, etc, etc said I cannot steal, kill, rape, etc, etc.". I reasoned that the law was to keep the society intact by preventing us from infringing on other's rights. That is the price we have to pay for living in a society. We cannot infringe on others or society cannot function.

That is a rough explanation but I know why I don't do something or do something and it has little to do with "Because I was told". More like "I reasoned why" as opposed to "I was brought up". The latte tells me that you swallowed the lesson wholesale without understanding why you are doing something. Relying on what the last person said.
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Yea. Ive read them as have most of the others here. Im not the only one who catches you in lies, half truths and illogical arguments. I know it is easier to say everyone else is wlong as opposed to admitting your own faults.
Would you like to submit evidence with your outrageous and insulting accusations or is this just going to be more of your opinions and hot air?

I think this is just retaliation for me catching you complementing me three times in the same thread!

BTW, I don't think everyone else is "wlong" whatever that is.
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Old 01-24-2013, 08:28 PM
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Would you like to submit evidence with your outrageous and insulting accusations or is this just going to be more of your opinions and hot air?

I think this is just retaliation for me catching you complementing me three times in the same thread!
You presented the example that you were raised around guns and that it did not adversely affect you. If you did not present this as 'evidence' that being raised around guns would not affect people then what was the point of your story?
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Old 01-24-2013, 08:31 PM
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An some actually look at the rule to determine if it is indeed moral before following it like a sheep. In Larry World questioning authority is not needed. The law is the law and needs to be followed.
Maybe that is why they always talk about us being a flock of sheep. To be led to the shearer and the slaughter by the shepherd. And when the shepherd gets horny........
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Yeah, I suppose I could improve my character by flipping the bird to every authority figure I come across. I guess it's only a rotten SOB like myself that will actually have respect for others and follow the law and the rules.


At one point in our history the law said I could own another human. At one point the law required that minorities sit in the back of the bus and could not eat with whites, marry whites ... This was the law of the land at the time? Lots of people followed the law for what ever reason. Some people questioned the law and worked to change the law.

So do you follow the law or question the law?

You have also said that the reason homosexuality is wrong is because the bible says it is. No reasoning just that the bible says it is wrong so it must be wrong. It is not wrong because it hurts someone (it does not) but just because the bible says it's not right. Don't question it just believe it.
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Old 01-24-2013, 08:34 PM
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Maybe that is why they always talk about us being a flock of sheep. To be led to the shearer and the slaughter by the shepherd. And when the shepherd gets horny........
Just had to go there huh?
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Just had to go there huh?
Why not? Ask yourself what happened to biblical character who got to be the one god and the devil bet on. Ask yourself about that guy who had to try kill his son to prove loyalty to the deity. Ask yourself about the guy who got blinded and was made to see things the way the deity wanted him to see. Now tell me about the horny shepherd and how it DOES NOT apply.
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You presented the example that you were raised around guns and that it did not adversely affect you. If you did not present this as 'evidence' that being raised around guns would not affect people then what was the point of your story?
That is your evidence?

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