How can one make the argument that one Constitutional right needs a set of strict identification laws to in order to comply and another needs to have a vastly different set of laws? Or even different- not vastly different? Other than proving you are not a felon (which disallows some rights) why are the laws which allow you to exercise CR's different- and how can one say it's okay for one but not another?
Not saying which rights are in question; rights are rights- are they not? Or is one right "higher" than another?

Apparently the NRA feels one right is higher than another. There are legal limitations on the right of freedom of speech, municipalities routinely require permits for assembled groups and that seems to be okay, but in the NRA's view there must be NO limitations on gun ownership.

edit: I should say NRA's LEADERSHIP, as recently repeated polls indicate their membership isn't on board with that notion.

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Reminds me of how things ended up in the book Animal Farm....
"All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others".

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Bentham said that rights were nonsense on stilts. Part of that critique is the notion that there are identical things or policies which fall under the essential category of a 'right'. It seems pretty clear to me that 'rights' are historical constructions and don't exist in any 'natural' way. Our whole post-Enlightenment notion of individual property rights would have been virtually impossible to understand by any human who lived 10,000 yrs ago. Freedom of the press is something that is anathema to a high proportion of religious traditions which have had blasphemy laws. So I don't think we should expect that 'rights' behave the same way in political and legal contexts when they don't have a common essence.

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There are pleanty of laws on the books that govern guns. I don't think anyone, not even the NRA is pushing to have those laws repealed. We've grown accustom to having to provide ID to buy a gun, and I don't think a background check is unreasonable.

But I also don't think having to provide ID to Vote is a stretch ether. Both actions require you are who you say you are, so why not ask for ID?

I think its very hypocritical to be so supportive of proper identification to buy a gun, but be negative on the idea that people have to provide ID to vote and prove they are who they say they are.

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Many rights are governed by state laws, which vary.

I agree. I was angered this past election cycle with the hurry-up way voter ID was hustled through in a big hurry, like there was some imminent danger. The notion of requiring ID to vote didn't and doesn't bother me in the least. People who didn't have IDs and for whom the cost of or the transportation to get them was an economic hardship risked being disenfranchised, which I believe was the intent of those pushing so hard for the rules. Given an appropriate amount of time, and keeping the cost free or nearly free doesn't bother me a bit and in fact is a good regulation. Rushing it through at the last minute in an obvious attempt to disenfranchise the poor and aged is nefarious and chickens hit.

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How has the NRA encouraged or assisted in getting existing laws enforced? Some might argue that a good deal of the effort expended by the leadership of the NRA is to undermine enforcement as part of its mission to make gun ownership and consumption as easy as buying a six pack, if not easier.

I think there's great confusion about gun rights and gun ownership. It's been argued that the NRA is less and less about "gun rights" but more and more about "gun sales."

They care less about "the right to keep and bear arms" but an awful lot about the privilege to "manufacture and sell a high profit commodity". Any restrictions to buying and selling that profitable commodity are anathema.

It's not about rights and laws, it's about dollars and cents.

Can you PROVE you have a need for the right of free speech? How about the Freedom of Assembly--do you really NEED that right? Hoe about the right to not be forced to incriminate yourself?--Obviously, only the guilty need such a right.
Go through the entire Bill of Rights and see if you are comfortable having to prove you actually need that right. Is that not what the attackers of the 2nd Amendment are demanding? Do the same for all rights.

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As I recall there was a member of congress who introduced a bill (it passed I think) that stripped the BATF from pretty much any enforcement on gun stores regarding inventory checks and how they sell weapons. The congressman admitted on tape as I recall that the NRA reviewed and signed off on the legislation.

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I think its very hypocritical to be so supportive of proper identification to vote, but be negative on the idea that people have to provide ID to buy a gun.

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spot on

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The right to smoke mary jane is definitely higher than the others...

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One might argue that the right to bear arms is of a slightly different kind, and perhaps of some greater import, since it may arguably be necessary to rely on it in order to assure that the other rights remain in place.