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Old 02-13-2013, 08:41 PM
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Industrial hemp finally gaining allies in high (NPI) places

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/13/us/13hemp.html

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Last month Senator Mitch McConnell, the Republican minority leader, announced his support for growing hemp in Kentucky, his home state.

On Monday, a panel of the Republican-controlled Kentucky State Senate unanimously approved a bill to license hemp growers. It was promoted by the state agriculture commissioner and three members of the state’s Congressional delegation, including Senator Rand Paul, who removed his jacket to testify in a white shirt that he announced was made of hemp fibers.

If the bill is approved by the full Legislature, Kentucky will join eight other states that have adopted laws to allow commercial hemp growing, although the practice is effectively blocked by federal law that makes no distinction between hemp and marijuana.

Attitudes are changing in surprising places. At a hearing on Monday in Frankfort, the Kentucky capital, the state police commissioner’s opposition to hemp growing was challenged by a former C.I.A. director, R. James Woolsey.

“The specter of people getting high on industrial hemp,” Mr. Woolsey said, “is pretty much exactly like saying you can get drunk on O’Doul’s.”

“They are identical in appearance when it comes to the naked eye,” Mr. Brewer said, predicting that legalizing hemp would create a boom for pot growers.

But Mr. Woolsey, who said he favored hemp because of “my interest in prosperity for rural America,” argued that no pot farmer would hide plants in a hemp field for fear that low-potency hemp would cross-pollinate with marijuana and lower the concentration of THC, its psychoactive ingredient.

Marijuana growers “hate the idea of having industrial hemp anywhere near,” he said.

But no better sign exists that hemp’s image is changing than its embrace by Mr. McConnell, the minority leader, who said in a statement last month that his mind had been changed “after long discussions” with Rand Paul and the Kentucky agriculture commissioner, James Comer, a Republican.

“The utilization of hemp to produce everything from clothing to paper is real,” Mr. McConnell said.
To that let me add that no pot grower wants his plants anywhere near male hemp pollen, as it spawns seeds. Pot growers ferret out male plants with serious dedication. I first gave a public speech on this topic (the many uses of hemp) in 1990. This is a positive step but I'm still wondering if industrial hemp will be legal in the US in my lifetime. Easily in the top ten most useful plants for humanity in history, maybe top five, but it's banned at present. It is to shake the head.

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Sounds as if you're quite an authority on this illegal drug.
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Old 02-13-2013, 09:30 PM
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YOU all should be.the constitution of this country is written on hemp paper.
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YOU all should be.the constitution of this country is written on hemp paper.
Yep, it wasn't illegal in those days. It was an important raw material due to the need for rope in those days. Of course since that time, superior materials for making both rope and paper have been produced.
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Allowing ppl to grow hemp around here would do more for the rural communities than anything that the Fed government could ever do to get the economies going again.
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Old 02-13-2013, 09:39 PM
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Sounds as if you're quite an authority on this illegal drug.
Hemp is not a drug anymore than Broccoli or Cauliflower, and all of them are in the same family

It was once a required crop. Grown by Presidents and used as currency.

and, here's a couple tidbits about your hero....
One example of the importance of hemp: Five years after cannabis hemp was outlawed in 1937, it was promptly re-introduced for the World War II effort in 1942.

So, when the young pilot George Bush bailed out of his burning airplane after a battle over the Pacific, little did he know:

Parts of his aircraft engine were lubricated with cannabis hemp seed oil;

100% of his life-saving parachute webbing was made from U.S. grown cannabis hemp;

Virtually all the rigging and ropes of the ship that pulled him in were made of cannabis hemp;

The fire hoses on the ship (as were those in the schools he had attended) were woven from cannabis hemp;
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Finally, as young George Bush stood safely on the deck, his shoes’ durable stitching was of cannabis hemp, as it is in all good leather and military shoes to this day.

When Hemp Saved George Bush's Life
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Old 02-13-2013, 09:40 PM
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Allowing ppl to grow hemp around here would do more for the rural communities than anything that the Fed government could ever do to get the economies going again.
damn straight.
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Old 02-13-2013, 09:43 PM
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Yep, it wasn't illegal in those days. It was an important raw material due to the need for rope in those days. Of course since that time, superior materials for making both rope and paper have been produced.
Wrong.

I defy you to try and support the position that there is ANY better material for rope and paper than hemp.
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Hope for the future. Hemp is a wonderful plant.
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Old 02-13-2013, 10:52 PM
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Yep, it wasn't illegal in those days. It was an important raw material due to the need for rope in those days. Of course since that time, superior materials for making both rope and paper have been produced.
Larry shows his uhh, lack of understanding. Hemp makes better paper than tree pulp, and about 4 times as much per acre, as it's an annual crop. This from a USDA report of 1916. It requires much less sulfuric acid to break down the fibers than tree pulp. It's reputed to be ideal for stretching recycled paper as its long fibers help to buttress the shorter fibers of used paper. It's illegal owing to boneheadedness. I don't smoke the stuff anymore, I agree it's a net negative.

But prohibition has done nothing to stem its use. It has succeeded, however in placing a useful crop out of reach for American farmers, ceding the market to farmers in other nations that aren't boneheaded and ignernt.

*EDIT* Some speculate that DuPont was down on hemp paper as it had cornered the market on sulfuric acid used in making paper from tree pulp. William Randolph Hurst, who railed against the evils of marijuana, allegedly had bought many acres of forest suited for pulp-paper production and didn't want the value of those diminished by a reintroduction of hemp.

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Sounds as if you're quite an authority on this illegal drug.
If I can direct your attention to the quoted bits in the OP, former C.I.A. director, R. James Woolsey is similarly an authority on this illegal drug. Knowledge is power. You ought to try it.
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Hemp production would open not only bring a stronger industry to the US, which is sorely needed, but it would also give this country a much needed export product. US soil for years has been considered the bread basket of the world, due to the fertile soils we have. KY has some of the best soil for growing hemp...as does southern Ohio, TN, WV, and VA. When it grows freely in the wild, meaning not cultivated, that should be testament enough to the soil conditions.

I wonder if it can become a rotational crop, much like soy beans is for corn farmers.

We know there is a demand for the product, a desire to grow it, and a market already in place for the product. Paper and rope aren't the only uses for hemp...Hemp seed oil, from what I read in the 1990's, is a clean burning fuel source.
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Hemp is not a drug anymore than Broccoli or Cauliflower, and all of them are in the same family.
I don't know, I've smoked a lot of broccoli and cauliflower in my day.
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Took me a while to figure out what institute or agency "NPI" stood for. Duh!
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Allowing ppl to grow hemp around here would do more for the rural communities than anything that the Fed government could ever do to get the economies going again.

I don't doubt that! Nothing like good ol' fashioned free enterprise.

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