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HuskyMan · #1 04-05-2013, 04:35 PM

Shop that sold gun to Newtown shooter's mom loses license | Fox News

Pooka · #2 04-05-2013, 04:50 PM

I knew of a shop that had its' permits pulled about 25 years ago. The owner said he could not imagine why, but the fact that this fellow had a reputation of being the go-to guy for off the books repairs might have had something to do with it. Need a revolver barrel replaced? He seemed to always have a few used one sitting around. If you had $25 he had the repairs done while you waited. Cash only on such sales also drew a bit of attention from the Cops that shopped there.

All permits holders have to 'secure' the guns they have for sale. This is a pretty broad term and it would be easy to run afoul of it. I mean, how secure is 'secure'? A normal gun safe, a room sized safe, an empty cigar box?

The bottom line is that if the ATF wants you shutdown they don't have to look very far to find a violation if they look real hard.

HuskyMan · #3 04-05-2013, 05:03 PM

I'm going to go out on a limb and make a prediction for the future of the people of Connecticut. I'm reading reports of Connecticut gun manufacturers making plans to leave the state and move to more gun friendly states. The writing is on the wall: if you are involved in the manufacture, sale or distribution of firearms in the great State of Connecticut, your days are numbered. why? Political and legislative pressure, plain and simple. If the gun stores shut down or leave, the gun makers shut down or leave and the ammo makers do the same, there won't be anything on the shelves to purchase.

This is the best news ever for both organized crime and gangs. I figure every gang and crime syndicate you can think of is making plans to move into Connecticut and take over. Cities like Hartford will fast become the new Detroit......

Hatterasguy · #4 04-05-2013, 09:40 PM

Yeah its utter BS, great guys.

Very few businesses can survive the BATFE thugs when they start looking at everything.

Put a few to many Ln's instead of Rd next to a street name and your shut down.

Its a shame, it was a nice family business.

spdrun · #5 04-05-2013, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HuskyMan

This is the best news ever for both organized crime and gangs. I figure every gang and crime syndicate you can think of is making plans to move into Connecticut and take over. Cities like Hartford will fast become the new Detroit......

Balls. NYC isn't very gun-friendly (to put it mildly), but nor has it turned into DeeeeTROIT.

kerry · #6 04-05-2013, 10:40 PM

No need for guns in NYC. Crime occurs at much higher levels there.

Air&Road · #7 04-05-2013, 11:07 PM

This should not surprise anyone. It certainly won't be the last gun store shut down for no reason.

HuskyMan · #8 04-05-2013, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by spdrun

Balls. NYC isn't very gun-friendly (to put it mildly), but nor has it turned into DeeeeTROIT.

NYC has lots of homicides though. I guarantee the local politicians in that place are armed while the rest of the law-abiding peons are NOT.

HuskyMan · #9 04-05-2013, 11:14 PM

It seems to be the old adage, "the innocent must pay for the crimes of the guilty". The gun store had NOTHING to do with the whack-nut going postal at the school and yet they are being made to pay the price.

aklim · #10 04-06-2013, 12:39 AM

No More Gun Sales Where Sandy Hook Weapon Was Bought | FOX8.com

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(CNN) — A Connecticut store that sold a gun used to kill 26 people last December at Sandy Hook Elementary School no longer can legally sell firearms.
Debora Seifert, a spokeswoman for the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, told CNN on Friday the Riverview Gun Sales shop in East Windsor, Connecticut, lost its federal firearms license December 20 — six days after the massacre about 65 miles southwest in Newtown.

That day, after killing his mother in their Newtown home, Adam Lanza drove to the elementary school and shot dead 20 young children and six adults using a semiautomatic Bushmaster .223-caliber model XM15 rifle.

The shooter’s mother, Nancy Lanza, bought the Bushmaster firearm two years ago at Riverview Gun Sales, according to Detective Matthew Carl of the East Windsor Police Department.

The ATF spokeswoman did not comment on why the store’s license was revoked, including if it had anything to do with the Newtown rampage.
But Carl said “probably the reason the ATF raided the store on December 20 was for poor keeping of the records.”

According to police, on December 15 — a day after the Sandy Hook shooting — a man was arrested at Riverview Gun Sales for stealing a .50-caliber firearm. Upon investigation, authorities learned the man allegedly stole a Wyndham firearm from the same shop four days earlier; in fact, he’d been arrested in June 2011 for allegedly stealing nine firearms from the store.

Afterward, authorities told Riverview Gun Sales’ owner David LaGuercia of the December arrest and checked surveillance images. LaGuercia was not aware multiple thefts had taken place.

“The owner is nonchalant. He is a very non-caring gun owner, very lax in his paperwork,” said Carl, the East Windsor detective. “He was eventually closed for hundreds and hundreds of federal and state law violations.”

LaGuercia, the store’s owner, could not be reached for comment on Friday.

His store has reopened but no longer sells guns, the detective said, though shoppers can still buy survival equipment and other items there.

The ATF conducted more than 11,400 firearms compliance inspections in 2012. The federal agency sought to revoke licenses in about 100 cases that year, which works out to less than 1% of all places inspected.

According to the ATF website, violations commonly cited in license revocation include “failure to account for firearms, failure to verify and document purchaser eligibility, failure to maintain records requisite for successful firearms tracing, and failure to report multiple sales of handguns.”

This past week, Connecticut passed what advocacy groups call the strongest gun-control legislation of any state in the country. The law bans the sale or purchase of high-capacity magazines, like the ones used in the Newtown shooting, and requires background checks for all gun purchases.

Hmmm. Lets see, you steal from my house 9 times. I wonder if I should invite you over for coffee.

JB3 · #11 04-06-2013, 05:47 AM

Listen to you guys, going on about the innocence if this gun store, doing nothing wrong, ect. Give me a break.

Obviously the store had nothing to do with the shootings, but the fact that such shootings took place has clearly caused police to make sure businesses are actually in compliance with record keeping and other sales rules. The same way that if they catch someone is a tax evasion, they focus on who he was dealing with looking for more tax evasions. I'm sure they are examining closely all the stores even remotely connected with newtown looking for laxness

As aklim posts, this guy had hundreds of violations, which sounds like lax record keeping and business practices to me. Its not hard to avoid hundreds of violations, and the owner wasn't even aware of this guy robbing him blind, the same guy arrested for stealing from him previously!